Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Restoration, Repair & Parts Forums > Windows, Doors, Locks & Vents > Doors & Locks
Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-17-2017, 05:47 AM   #1
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Moonstruck's Avatar
 
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English , Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
Send a message via MSN to Moonstruck Send a message via Yahoo to Moonstruck
Good Morning America - does this door fit?

Ihttp://www.airforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=278258&stc=1&d=1484656 621

I'm in the UK and just imported a really lovely 1975 TradeWind in through Southampton. Here's her first picture in her new home - fresh off the ship.

Does this door fit? I ask the question not to be obvious. The answer is almost but not quite - the bend in the door is less than the frame - hence there are gaps top and bottom!

The reason I ask is because in looking at 1975 and indeed all Trade Winds from that period not a single one has a door with a window in it.

So, the questions are:
1, Is this a replacement door, in which case am I stuck with the problem?
2, Can I do anything to make it a better fit?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	TradeWind-Soton.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	252.1 KB
ID:	278258   Click image for larger version

Name:	DoorOpen.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	302.0 KB
ID:	278259  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DoorClosed.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	262.6 KB
ID:	278260  
__________________
Silvertwinkie
Hampshire, UK
Moonstruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:47 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
Images: 5
Well, it appears to be a door from that era, if not original. And I doubt there were different narrow body rib curvatures. I would bet the door has sprung....flown open while travelling and thrown to the open position. It can be repaired, but is an involved process of removing the door, making a jig, removing most all interior side rivets, clamping to the jig and reinstalling new rivets. I know there have been very good threads on the forum showing the process, but I haven't paid a lot of attention to author nor titles, as I haven't needed to be involved with this process.. I'll search, but I would bet someone will come along with the exact info you need soon.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:50 AM   #3
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
Images: 5
This should give you a start and some contacts.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f453...oor-26820.html
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 06:51 AM   #4
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
Images: 5
I think you have a bigger issue than this:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f453...ly-123413.html

I have done this to minor fitment issues.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 07:04 AM   #5
Rivet Master
 
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
Thanks for that link.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g View Post
I think you have a bigger issue than this:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f453...ly-123413.html

I have done this to minor fitment issues.
Post #3 in the thread linked above is here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf View Post
If you carefully put a wood block just at top of where curve starts, you can GINGERLY press the bottom inward with hands place on the hinge or latch side above and below where the bend starts (straddle the board).. Then press in. Take it slowly
When we took our FC20 in for brake and bearing inspections last fall, I watched the mechanic (after asking permission) adjust our main door using a block of wood in a similar fashion. It was amazing how little force was needed to spring the door back to conform to the door jamb. With the block of wood supporting the middle of the edge of the door, pushing on the top or bottom corners is like using a 3' crow bar, so there is a lot of leverage.

Hence the phrase "take it slowly" in the quote above. I would try this method with your door in place, after taking careful measurements before you start. You will note improvement if it is working in your favor. You can re-position the block to enable re-curving to happen where you need it.

Remember, the framing inside the door is only about 1-2" thick, so that the leverage being applied can bend the door fairly easily IMO.

The further techniques of taking the door off to get the curve you want involves more risk obviously, and is not for the faint at heart! If you are good with your hands, hopefully you will not over-bend things.

Good luck!

Peter

PS -- Wondering about the source of the phrase "get bent" here . . .

OTRA15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 11:37 AM   #6
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
Moonstruck's Avatar
 
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English , Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
Send a message via MSN to Moonstruck Send a message via Yahoo to Moonstruck
Easy does it!

Guys,
thank you so much for our good advice on this. I'm not in a rush to fix this as it rained cats and dogs Saturday night and no water got in. I'm sure the trick is to manufacture some wooden formers that can sit in the frame and limit the force you can apply to the door. That way you gently work it to fit rather than risking going too far
Again, many thanks!
Marc
__________________
Silvertwinkie
Hampshire, UK
Moonstruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 11:42 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
If you use a thin wood block to start with, the door jamb will limit the amount you can bend the door. As you make progress, increase the thickness of the block. Hard to explain how simple the mechanic at our AS shop made it look. [<---quicker than that sentence!]

OTRA15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 09:06 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
DavidsonOverlander's Avatar
 
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton , ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,224
Images: 4
Check the door where the deadbolt is installed to see if the hole drilled in the door is large enough to compromise the door strength. On our '74 Sovereign the hole left so little material that the inside edge of the door's frame had cracked and no amount of bending was going to close the gap. Hopefully that's not a problem on yours as it's much harder to fix than just bending.
__________________
1974 Sovereign
2005 F-350 SRW 4x4 crew cab long box
TAC ON-5

1965 Avion C-10 Truck Camper (65avion.home.blog)
DavidsonOverlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 11:12 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
Foiled Again's Avatar
 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
I went to a hardware store grand opening where the gave away cheap wood yardsticks. Made layers from 1/8 to 3/8 inch thick. That worked for the bottom of the door. Gotta borrow a ladder to do the top.

Leaned on the door more than whacked it

PAULA
__________________
Today is a gift, that's why they call it the present.
Foiled Again is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2017, 11:26 PM   #10
Rivet Puller
 
SeeMore's Avatar
 
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs , Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
Images: 3
Sometimes a picture(s) or video helps convey an answer better than a stream of words:



__________________
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement."

Sir Tristan
Air #48582, S/SO #003, WBCCI #4584
SeeMore is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good Morning America - Sway Control Moonstruck Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 7 01-04-2016 10:05 AM
Good Morning AS America anglia Member Introductions 8 12-22-2014 12:44 PM
Good Morning, Colorado! Zeppelinium Winter Living 76 04-19-2013 08:24 AM
Good Morning Jackson Center! PeeWee Off Topic Forum 11 10-30-2009 09:11 AM
Good morning from balmy Cleveland Classicpilot Member Introductions 5 04-18-2007 04:48 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.