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02-06-2011, 10:57 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 25' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
Burnsville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 288
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Entry Door not tight at the top and bottom
Is there an adjustment to tighten the door for a better seal at the top and bottom. It is flush at the latch. We have seals on order from Overland but the differenence from center and top and bottom seem too much. It looks like the door isn't curved or bowed enough. Not sure if the pic will show it.
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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
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02-06-2011, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Sounds like your door is "sprung". This can be caused from either driving down the road and it flying open or a simply a gust of wind coming up while camping and ripping it out of your hand, etc. The only way to "fix it" is to re-bend the door. Unfortunately, alot of the later year Airstreams have cast door supports that are not easily bendable...
Shari
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02-06-2011, 12:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Constructor,
We had the same issue with Little Girl. If it's not too far out of whack, you can re-arc it. To see some pics of what we did, check out our thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f185...b-50967-6.html Posts 76 shows the bottom half. And then I repeated the same process for the upper half.
Chris
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02-06-2011, 03:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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I just read a post that covered re arcing the door. Three guys were involved. Two on the outside of the door holding it tight against the opening. The third guy was on the inside. He had driiled out all of the rivets except those across the top and bottom of the door. While the door was held tight, he drilled new holes and riveted the inner skin back on. They said it worked, the door was re arched. Can't remember where the post was.
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02-26-2011, 06:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 25' Tradewind
Currently Looking...
Burnsville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 288
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Sprung Door Extra Rivets
The Constructor and I are having another disagreement on the 'project'.
He wants to add extra rivets to the door when use the 2X4 method to put the curve back in the slightly sprung door.
I think I have read you just drill out the ones on the latch side and reset. Plus it will look UGLY!!!!
What do you folks say?
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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
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02-26-2011, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by constructor
The Constructor and I are having another disagreement on the 'project'.
He wants to add extra rivets to the door when use the 2X4 method to put the curve back in the slightly sprung door.
I think I have read you just drill out the ones on the latch side and reset. Plus it will look UGLY!!!!
What do you folks say?
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Ann.
The inside door metal should be removed.
Then the door frame is reshaped so that it fits correctly. The door gasket should be removed so that there is no pressure on the realigned door.
Then, very carefully, reinstall the interior metal, but DO NOT use any of the original holes. Drill all new holes, scattering them out. When the interior panels have been completely reinstalled, and the door fits correctly, then and only then, fill in all the original holes. After just a few rivets are in place, check the door alignment again and again. DO NOT slam the door during this process.
Why do you use all new holes to reinstall the interior metal??
Because most of the original holes have been stretched. Using only them, will allow the door to return to it's "out of shape" position.
When all the riveting is done, and the door fits correctly, then you can install a new gasket, not before.
Andy
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02-26-2011, 07:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 696
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drill/ re-rivet
OK, are you suppoed to drill new holes in both the inner door and door frame, or bend (re-arch) the door frame and drill in that using the old holes on the inner door? My door has some "spring" to it, and already has empty rivet holes. I don't want more empty holes. MPJ
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02-26-2011, 08:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moparjohn
OK, are you suppoed to drill new holes in both the inner door and door frame, or bend (re-arch) the door frame and drill in that using the old holes on the inner door? My door has some "spring" to it, and already has empty rivet holes. I don't want more empty holes. MPJ
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Yes, drill all new holes.
When the job is completed as I outlined above, then fill all the old holes with rivets. Sorry, I left that step out.
Andy
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02-28-2011, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 696
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holly holes!
Might I ask is replacement inner door paneling available? I have a 73, so or course I'd like to match if possible. I think my door was opened once before, so then there would be 3 sets of holes, lots of rivets! MPJ
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02-28-2011, 02:22 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moparjohn
Might I ask is replacement inner door paneling available? I have a 73, so or course I'd like to match if possible. I think my door was opened once before, so then there would be 3 sets of holes, lots of rivets! MPJ
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Unfortunately, the original "vinyl-clad" has not been available for many years.
You could use the same metal as the exsterior, and then paint it.
Andy
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03-22-2024, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 713
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Same procedure for a 2017?
I know this is an old post but I have a sprung door also. It sticks out at the top and bottom and is flush at the lock. The hinge side of door is flush at the top and bottom so I suppose I could just remove fasteners on the top, bottom and latching side of the door and follow this procedure to correct this. I have tried the wood method but door is out more than a 1/4” and it doesn’t seem to help. My AS is a 2017 FC FB.
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03-22-2024, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,242
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I had my door fly open years ago. Was out by about 2 inches. The recommendation is to drill out the inner pop rivets on the inner skin, bend the door to the proper curve and then drill new holes and install new pop rivets. This works very well. But you must get the curve perfect. I made a curved piece of wood and clamped the door to it. Made sure it fit and then installed new rivets. However, I did not want to end up with open rivet holes from the originals so I drilled out the existing holes for 3/16 inch rivets instead of the original 1/8 rivets. Can’t tell that I did anything except the rivet heads are slightly larger.
Hope this helps.
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03-22-2024, 11:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Oak Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Mar 2023
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Not sure this will help, but figured I'd share it.
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