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02-07-2008, 11:38 AM
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your airstream brother
1967 30' Sovereign
millen
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2006
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'67 outside door handle needed
hello everyone,its been awhile since ive visited....but i still own her (the longest ive kept anything other than the wife and kids )anyone got an used one or a link to a new one? for my 67 sovereign thanks in advance...Gary.
she still shinning....alot of upkeep though...
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1967 airstream 31'soveriegn land yacht
temporally insanity caused me to polish it.
chrome wheels, balanced hd tires
TOW VEHC 02 TAHOE 5.3 4X4 AIR REAR SUSPENSION
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02-07-2008, 12:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Is this the one on your 67?
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02-07-2008, 01:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Here is a link to the image at Inland RV. http://www.inlandrv.com/parts/22224-lock-l100.jpg. This is the lock that I have on my '67. The bolt for Airstreams is longer than the standard Bargman lock that most RV places stock. Otherwise they are identical. If you don't need that, you may be able to locate one localy. Otherwise, Andy has 'em.
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02-07-2008, 01:42 PM
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your airstream brother
1967 30' Sovereign
millen
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
Is this the one on your 67?
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looks like it
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1967 airstream 31'soveriegn land yacht
temporally insanity caused me to polish it.
chrome wheels, balanced hd tires
TOW VEHC 02 TAHOE 5.3 4X4 AIR REAR SUSPENSION
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02-07-2008, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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02-07-2008, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Lock Difference
If you compare the legnth of the bolt (the part that extends into the frame) you will see that the ones on ebay and RVParts.com, you can see that they show have much shorter bolts. Yes, they are much less expensive than the one that fits Airstreams, but if you put one like this on your door there will be nothing sticking out. You will have to look down the hole in the door to see anything at all.
You're probably wondering how I know this.
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02-07-2008, 03:05 PM
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your airstream brother
1967 30' Sovereign
millen
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
If you compare the legnth of the bolt (the part that extends into the frame) you will see that the ones on ebay and RVParts.com, you can see that they show have much shorter bolts. Yes, they are much less expensive than the one that fits Airstreams, but if you put one like this on your door there will be nothing sticking out. You will have to look down the hole in the door to see anything at all.
You're probably wondering how I know this.
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JUST THE OUTSIDE HANDLE IS BAD,I WOUNDER IF I CAN SWAP SOME PARTS AROUND? sorry about the cap lock....
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1967 airstream 31'soveriegn land yacht
temporally insanity caused me to polish it.
chrome wheels, balanced hd tires
TOW VEHC 02 TAHOE 5.3 4X4 AIR REAR SUSPENSION
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02-07-2008, 03:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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You Bet
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Originally Posted by garyk1970
JUST THE OUTSIDE HANDLE IS BAD,I WOUNDER IF I CAN SWAP SOME PARTS AROUND? sorry about the cap lock....
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Absolutely…you are golden! The bolt is the only difference. Depending on the age of the RV dealership, I have seen just the handles and knobs without even having to buy the whole lockset. This is usually at a dealership that has been in business a long time, though.
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02-07-2008, 03:22 PM
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your airstream brother
1967 30' Sovereign
millen
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
Absolutely…you are golden! The bolt is the only difference. Depending on the age of the RV dealership, I have seen just the handles and knobs without even having to buy the whole lockset. This is usually at a dealership that has been in business a long time, though.
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cool, thats all i need is the outside handle ( the square part inside if the handle has rounded off the edges and doesn't catch the inside mechanism anymore) Ive taken it apart several times now trying to fix, yes i qualify as an expert thanks for all the replies so far... Gary.
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1967 airstream 31'soveriegn land yacht
temporally insanity caused me to polish it.
chrome wheels, balanced hd tires
TOW VEHC 02 TAHOE 5.3 4X4 AIR REAR SUSPENSION
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02-07-2008, 03:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Before you buy something
Hi Gary,
Let me check when I get home. I think I still have an old lock that had the bolt break. One of the “ears” on the back came off blocking the bolt fully in the doorframe, trapping me inside. After I removed the inside handle, I could only get 3 of the 4 screws holding the mechanism to the outside handle out because the Phillips head stripped on the last one. I was forced to pry the cage that holds the bolt in place to get out. After that, I had to remove the interior skin to get the now mangled lock out. If I can get the screw out with a pair of vise grips, you are welcome to my old one.
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02-07-2008, 04:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Vaughan, Good job offering that helping hand to Gary. Karma to you! Ed
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2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Double Cab SLE
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02-07-2008, 04:17 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Originally Posted by Ganglin
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Experience with that lock says that when you slam the door, from the inside, the horizintal handle breaks off.
Hundreds have been replaced for that reason.
Andy
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02-07-2008, 04:24 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
If you compare the legnth of the bolt (the part that extends into the frame) you will see that the ones on ebay and RVParts.com, you can see that they show have much shorter bolts. Yes, they are much less expensive than the one that fits Airstreams, but if you put one like this on your door there will be nothing sticking out. You will have to look down the hole in the door to see anything at all.
You're probably wondering how I know this.
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The original casting mold for the extended striker bolt, recently broke, and cannot be repaired.
Airstream has replaced that cast extended striker bolt, with one that is machined.
The machined striker bolt, is much more expensive that the cast bolt.
The new bolt still only available from an Airstream dealer.
Therefore the price of the complete lock with the new type striker bolt, has increased as well.
Andy
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02-07-2008, 05:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Success
Hi Gary,
Good news. I still have the old lock. I was able to get the offending Phillips screw out by filing it square and using vise grips. PM me an address and I’ll drop it in the mail.
Thanks for the Karma, Ed. I have come close to throwing it out many times and was not absolutely certain that I hadn’t.
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
The original casting mold for the extended striker bolt, recently broke, and cannot be repaired.
Airstream has replaced that cast extended striker bolt, with one that is machined.
The machined striker bolt, is much more expensive that the cast bolt.
The new bolt still only available from an Airstream dealer.
Therefore the price of the complete lock with the new type striker bolt, has increased as well.
Andy
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Hi Andy,
Given my experience with the cast bolt, that is good news. Should be worth the extra expense.
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02-07-2008, 05:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Horizontal Handle Issues
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Experience with that lock says that when you slam the door, from the inside, the horizintal handle breaks off.
Hundreds have been replaced for that reason.
Andy
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I found a handle like that in my closet. I considered trying it till I noticed it would probably be a knuckle killer with the screen door, if it would work at all. The inside knob works very well.
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02-07-2008, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Yes, it is a longer bolt. When ours died, the original bolt and related parts were ok, so I bought a cheaper, short-bolt lock and reassembled into a reasonable new lock. It's held for about ten years now.
Lynn
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02-07-2008, 06:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eubank
Yes, it is a longer bolt. When ours died, the original bolt and related parts were ok, so I bought a cheaper, short-bolt lock and reassembled into a reasonable new lock. It's held for about ten years now.
Lynn
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I would have done that too, but the bolt is what broke.
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02-07-2008, 08:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
I would have done that too, but the bolt is what broke.
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Yeah, I figure ours will give up the ghost at some point, too, and then I'll buy the real thing. To tell the truth, this all happened before AirForums and all of the related resources were known to me; otherwise, I'd probably have bought a "real" new lock to begin with.
Lynn
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02-07-2008, 08:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Understand that. The forums have made a quantum leap in my Airstream knowledge and awareness, not to mention new friends. When I replaced the lock the first time, Fred and Jack’s Trailer Sales in Bryant, Arkansas (very near me) was an Airstream dealer so I got it there. They no longer are, the excellent folks at Airstream of Arkansas in Searcy picked up that option and they are true believers. After purchasing (and returning) one of the standard Bargmans, I got a new Airstream model at Fred and Jack’s. Even though they no longer sell Airstreams, they continue to stock parts. Today I would probably drive the extra distance to Searcy just to see Gene and the gang.
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