Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-07-2017, 02:27 PM   #1
MOS
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Queensbury , New York
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 127
Which satellite dish and network provider ??

Want to get a dish for the 2016 FC 28W.
It has a outside connection on one side and , I guess some connecting wires for the box inside .

So is one brand better than another ?
Which provider will give me the best for travelers in the USA ?

At some point in the future I make install it on the roof but for now just move it around on the ground .
Thanks
__________________

MOS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2017, 02:46 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
HowieE's Avatar
 
1991 34' Excella
Princeton , New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,045
Images: 12
I used Directv for close to 20 years.
The one thing I would suggest you consider is not mounting the antenna on the trailer. You have a tendency to park under trees. Another thing is if you do not use the receiver for 2 or 3 weeks they tend to shut it off leaving you having to call them when you set up. They seam to forget to stop charging for it while it is shut off so if you are stored for long periods you have to call and cancel the billing.

We no longer have to service. The I phone works and many more campgrounds now have cable.
__________________

__________________
WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles

HowieE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2017, 03:59 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
Al and Missy's Avatar

 
2002 30' Classic S/O
Melbourne Beach , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,926
I have had DirecTV service at home for many years. So I use DirecTV on my trailer. IF I were starting from scratch, I would probably go with Dish network.
1. The less expensive Dish network antennas will get HD, with DireCTV there is only one self-pointing RV antenna; it is only roof-mountable, and it is near $1500. If you are handy, you can buy a home dish, put it on a tripod, and point it manually for around $100, but you have to get the tripod level, then you have to make two adjustments on the antenna before you point it, and then you need a compass and someone inside to relay signal strengths, or a phone inside and with you so you can hear the aiming tones.
2. The last time I checked, you could turn off DirecTV once per year or once per 6 months, but Dish allows you to pay as you go, turning it on and off by the month.
3. Regarding the comment about having to call in to get the receiver turned on, I have experienced that but you can do it automatically on DirecTV's web site. I have read on here that Dish doesn't have that capability and it is difficult to get through on the phone to get it done.
4. With either service, you can call in and change your plan so you get local stations wherever you are if you can't get them off the air.

A portable unit is good for moving away from the trailer to get out from under trees, but has the disadvantage of being easily stolen. Portable units for DirecTV only get standard definition, not HD.

Al
__________________
"You cannot reason someone out of a position they have not been reasoned into"
Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO
WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins



Al and Missy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2017, 04:02 PM   #4
RLS
Rivet Master
 
RLS's Avatar
 
2004 25' Classic
Prescott , Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 621
We have Directv, Mainly because that is what we use in the house. When taking the trailer, one of the Directv receivers goes with us. We also have both dishes, one mounted on the roof and one portable. Use both depending on what trees are above the trailer.
__________________
Julia & Bob
W/ Deedee & Boo
AIR #30685
RLS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2017, 04:26 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
Al and Missy's Avatar

 
2002 30' Classic S/O
Melbourne Beach , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,926
More to my post....

I said: "If you are handy, you can buy a home dish, put it on a tripod, and point it manually for around $100, but you have to get the tripod level, then you have to make two adjustments on the antenna before you point it, and then you need a compass and someone inside to relay signal strengths, or a phone inside and with you so you can hear the aiming tones."

The aiming process I described is applicable to the newer Genie receivers, or any DirecTV receiver that uses a Single Wire Multifeed (SWM) antenna. If you get an earlier receiver that uses the standard LNB antenna, there are inexpensive tuning meters that go in-line at the antenna so you can point the dish and make other adjustments while watching the meter out at the antenna. I'm told the simple, cheap meters will not work with a SWM dish.

Al
__________________
"You cannot reason someone out of a position they have not been reasoned into"
Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO
WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins



Al and Missy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 05:35 AM   #6
MOS
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Queensbury , New York
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 127
What about Winguard and King dishes ?
MOS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 06:54 AM   #7
4 Rivet Member
 
Hiho Silver's Avatar
 
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Overland Park , Kansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 316
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al and Missy View Post
I have had DirecTV service at home for many years. So I use DirecTV on my trailer. IF I were starting from scratch, I would probably go with Dish network.

4. With either service, you can call in and change your plan so you get local stations wherever you are if you can't get them off the air.

A portable unit is good for moving away from the trailer to get out from under trees, but has the disadvantage of being easily stolen. Portable units for DirecTV only get standard definition, not HD.

Al
I also have directv, but I have been told by Directv that when you are traveling you can NOT get local stations unless you are in one place for a long time and call them and change your location. I would love to get the local channels while traveling, just wondering how to get it done.
Hiho Silver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 12:32 PM   #8
4 Rivet Member

 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Wherever , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 454
I have Dish at our vacation house, so I got Dish On the Go (or whatever it's called) for the TT. Less than $10 a month, it gets HD and the Winegard antenna aims itself. I have the Winegard X2 antenna and if I was to do it again, I would get the X1. It's smaller and we never want to tune to 2 channels at the same time. A lot of stories going around that the antenna has to be connected directly to the receiver (not using the trailer wiring). That's not true. It works fine connecting to the SAT connection on the outside. I've hooked it up both ways and there is no difference.

I agree that having an antenna that you can move around gives you more flexibility in a wooded area, but even being able to move it around is sometimes not enough. It's amazing how little interference will screw up the signal.

You can also call Dish to stop the service and save the $10. I have never done it because it's more trouble to stop it and restart it if we're only going to not be using it for a month or so. I still have to call them to get the local channels where we are camped.
__________________
2016 Flying Cloud 26u
2017 Silverado Duramax 4x4
Equalizer Hitch
Bgibbs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 12:56 PM   #9
MOS
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Queensbury , New York
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bgibbs View Post
I have Dish at our vacation house, so I got Dish On the Go (or whatever it's called) for the TT. Less than $10 a month, it gets HD and the Winegard antenna aims itself. I have the Winegard X2 antenna and if I was to do it again, I would get the X1. It's smaller and we never want to tune to 2 channels at the same time. A lot of stories going around that the antenna has to be connected directly to the receiver (not using the trailer wiring). That's not true. It works fine connecting to the SAT connection on the outside. I've hooked it up both ways and there is no difference.

I agree that having an antenna that you can move around gives you more flexibility in a wooded area, but even being able to move it around is sometimes not enough. It's amazing how little interference will screw up the signal.

You can also call Dish to stop the service and save the $10. I have never done it because it's more trouble to stop it and restart it if we're only going to not be using it for a month or so. I still have to call them to get the local channels where we are camped.

Is the $10. per month charge priced because you also have it at home ?
MOS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 01:15 PM   #10
4 Rivet Member
 
NWRVR's Avatar
 
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 468
Blog Entries: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by MOS View Post
Is the $10. per month charge priced because you also have it at home ?
Yes, if you have Dish at home you can add your RV receiver for $7.00 per month. We don't have it at home so pay full amount for whichever channel plan we want which can be changed anytime. Also, you can turn on and off service on a rolling 30 days periods. We opted for the Wineguard X-2 because of the larger dish and user experience reports being better than the King. The X-2 cannot be mounted on the roof but as others have said you really want to be able to position it for signal because the least little bit of tree leaf interference will drop the signal. Worked flawlessly out of the box and Dish was efficient in getting our Wally receiver registered. All in cost was $499 including shipping.
__________________
2015 Classic 30A, Blue OX Sway Pro, 2016 F350 4x4 Ultimate Lariat crew cab SRW, LWB, 6.7 PSD, 20" wheels, Ingot Silver Metallic, DiamondBack tonneau cover, TrailFX wheel-to-wheel step bars.
Sold: 2014 25FB International Serenity
NWRVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 02:06 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Al and Missy's Avatar

 
2002 30' Classic S/O
Melbourne Beach , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,926
Quote:
Originally Posted by MOS View Post
What about Winguard and King dishes ?
I don't know if this question was meant for me, but when I said DirecTV dishes, I was including manufacturers like Winegard. In fact, the dish on my roof for DirecTV is a Winegard Trav'ler. It replaced a Winegard AS-2003 18x21 dish which only got standard definition.

As far as I know, you have to have the slimline dish (regardless of who makes it) to get HD on DirecTV and the only self-pointing one I found was the one I have.

The small (18" round and 18"x21") dishes in radomes like the Carryout and X1/X2 are made for DirecTV but will not get HD, at least not the last time I looked at them. I think it is a technology thing. DirecTV satellites are spaced such that they play games with the dish alignment. If you look at one, you will notice that the major axis of the dish is not horizontal. This is called "skew". DirecTV dishes must be aligned in azimuth, elevation, and skew at each location. Dish network antennas align only in azimuth and elevation. This adds another gear train to the automatic dishes making them more expensive.

Al
__________________
"You cannot reason someone out of a position they have not been reasoned into"
Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO
WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins



Al and Missy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 03:32 PM   #12
2 Rivet Member
 
dalecamp`'s Avatar
 
Pearland , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 29
Dish Network here, with a VIP211Z receiver( purchased refurbished for less than $50) with a WD external HD. One time fee to set up the HD and it operates just like DVR receiver I have at home, but only one channel at a time. As the previous poster said it is $7 a month. I use a Wingard Carryout dish. I can usually find a place to place it with no interference from trees. Originally I used the receiver from home, but this is much easier.
Best of luck.
__________________
Dale Camp
Pearland, TX
1982 Avion 34V
2003 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 4X4
dalecamp` is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 03:43 PM   #13
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,458
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
I have a Dish Tailgater and a Dish 211z receiver. As best I know I've never heard of anyone having a portable satellite dish stolen. I do carry a chain that can be used to secure the dish if necessary. Since I have Dish at home, my only cost is the activation of the receiver which is prorated at $7 a month. Typically I activate the receiver just before we leave home, and deactivate it upon return.

While there is some nicety in having the dish mounted to your vehicle, I like the freedom of being able to move it around. Not all sites at campgrounds are clear enough to get a clear shot at the sky. A moveable dish makes a lot of difference in finding that clear spot.

As noted I can receive all the channels I subscribed to at home. The only channels not available may be your locals dependent upon where you are camped. The good side is if you are out of the footprint of your local stations, you can call Dish and have them switch you to the locals in the area you are staying at.

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 05:26 PM   #14
3 Rivet Member
 
greenflag's Avatar
 
2016 30' International
Quartz Hill , California
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 245
I have Dish at home.
So I wanted Dish on the road. I chose Dish for my service because you can add your RV service on a pay as you go month to month. So if you don't plan on RVing for a couple of months, call them up and shut it off. There are no start up or off charges.
Also, Dish offers HD programming.
My antenna is the Dish King Tailgater hooked to a VIP 211 receiver. It is fully automatic. It takes about 15 minutes to setup. I purchased the antenna online from Camping World.
You need to change the splitter in the cabinet where the DVD player is located. I purchased my splitter directly from Monoprice. It was half the price purchasing from Airstream.
greenflag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2017, 05:38 PM   #15
3 Rivet Member
 
2020 30' Classic
2016 30' Classic
Covington , Louisiana
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 201
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcanavera View Post
I have a Dish Tailgater and a Dish 211z receiver. As best I know I've never heard of anyone having a portable satellite dish stolen. I do carry a chain that can be used to secure the dish if necessary. Since I have Dish at home, my only cost is the activation of the receiver which is prorated at $7 a month. Typically I activate the receiver just before we leave home, and deactivate it upon return.

While there is some nicety in having the dish mounted to your vehicle, I like the freedom of being able to move it around. Not all sites at campgrounds are clear enough to get a clear shot at the sky. A moveable dish makes a lot of difference in finding that clear spot.

As noted I can receive all the channels I subscribed to at home. The only channels not available may be your locals dependent upon where you are camped. The good side is if you are out of the footprint of your local stations, you can call Dish and have them switch you to the locals in the area you are staying at.

Jack
DITTO here!
Sjcjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2017, 05:10 AM   #16
MOS
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Queensbury , New York
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 127
So do the dishes draw much power ?
The portable one have a cable and power cord that connect to the TT ?
MOS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2017, 08:03 AM   #17
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Severna Park , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 15
A friend of mine sold his '08 Winnie View recently and used a portable King Tailgater on a Dish Network. He like that he could subscribe month to month. Easy setup. It's now available for purchase.
RedBird64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2017, 08:46 AM   #18
4 Rivet Member
 
NWRVR's Avatar
 
2015 30' Classic
Sherwood , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 468
Blog Entries: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by MOS View Post
So do the dishes draw much power ?
The portable one have a cable and power cord that connect to the TT ?
The Dish powers the antennas through the coax. Not sure how DirectTV power theirs. Also, as to the question of theft I have a cable that I padlock to the dish/stand and whatever is nearby. It may prevent a crime of opportunity where they will move on to an easier target.
__________________

__________________
2015 Classic 30A, Blue OX Sway Pro, 2016 F350 4x4 Ultimate Lariat crew cab SRW, LWB, 6.7 PSD, 20" wheels, Ingot Silver Metallic, DiamondBack tonneau cover, TrailFX wheel-to-wheel step bars.
Sold: 2014 25FB International Serenity
NWRVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dish Network installation Problem wolverine Computers, Internet & Satellite 14 06-26-2017 10:27 PM
Tailgater Satellite Dish-DISH TV Mrjkq Computers, Internet & Satellite 15 11-11-2016 11:18 AM
Tailgater/Dish Network Connection Issue Silverbee Electronics & Connectivity 5 01-14-2015 02:09 PM
Dish Network tuner install Jack46 Audio, Video & TV 6 08-28-2014 08:00 PM
Dish Network vs Direct TV gwsullivan Electrical - Systems, Generators, Batteries & Solar 36 01-17-2005 02:49 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.