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Old 11-04-2011, 10:07 AM   #1
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Question Where to put satellite receiver

First of all I apologize if this has been asked and answered before. I could not find the exact answer when I searched the topic.

I've got a 2012 27FB International. I see the coax jumper under the dinette table and understand electronically how it all works but I'm stumped as to where to put the actually receiver and how to run the coax to and from the receiver without just having visible cable all over the place.

I guess I can put the receiver on the floor under the table but I'd prefer to have it up above in the A/V cabinet where the DVD player is. I just don't know how to run the cables without tearing up the interior.

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The least invasive thing you can do is to attach it to the underside of your dinette table top.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:41 AM   #3
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Not perfect but another option is to enclose the cables in a plastic wireloom, run that behind dinette seat, up behind drapery to the overhead cabinet. Wireloom would be visible only for a couple inches above the drapery as it enters the bottom of the cabinet....
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First of all I apologize if this has been asked and answered before. I could not find the exact answer when I searched the topic.

I've got a 2012 27FB International. I see the coax jumper under the dinette table and understand electronically how it all works but I'm stumped as to where to put the actually receiver and how to run the coax to and from the receiver without just having visible cable all over the place.

I guess I can put the receiver on the floor under the table but I'd prefer to have it up above in the A/V cabinet where the DVD player is. I just don't know how to run the cables without tearing up the interior.

Thanks in advance,

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I will install satellite in a few months and am wondering if you found a solution.
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We have a 2008 28" Safari and grappling with the same problem. Ths solution I am going to focus on is a 1/4" brushed aluminium plate hung under the overhead cabinet. I will probably use bolts inserted through 1/4" ID PVC (mayby painted)to hide their appearance.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:52 PM   #6
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The least invasive thing you can do is to attach it to the underside of your dinette table top.
I found a white wire basket at Walmart that was a bit larger than the receiver and open on one of the long sides. Think it was where they had their shelf organizers. I mounted it on the bottom rear of the dinette table with the open side forward making sure I could still lower the table to make it into a bed if needed. I then made up a pair of short cables with push on F-Connectors that reach from the back of the receiver to the jumper plate below the dinette and labeled them for in and out and then wrapped with plastic spiral and then tie wrapped the upper section to the rear of the basket. When preparing for a trip, I slide the receiver into the basket plugging in the cables and then secure it on the basket with a bungee. It is out of the way and out of sight but it can still "see" the remote reflecting off the interior. If I ever want to use the park cable, I simply unplug the 2 cables at the plate and insert the jumper.

Remember that the power switch on the batwing needs to be off for cable/satellite to work.
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One has to wonder at the thought process that led to locating the jumper tucked away under the table in the corner. Marvelous!.
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I bet most RV designers don't own one themselves.
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I suppose I will mount the receiver under the table. Not sure how I will get the remote to work. Maybe I can train the dog to operate the receiver, as she hangs out down there anyway.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:56 PM   #10
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... Not sure how I will get the remote to work. ...
Some receivers will work with a UHF remote that will operate the receiver from the other side of the house through walls. Most have an IR remote. While invisible to the eye, it sends a beam of light that the receiver sees. If the eye on the front of the receiver isn't blocked it will likely see the reflections off the interior walls and cabinets. I have the rear dinette and even with the receiver under the table, if I point the remote towards the tv while sitting at the dinette, it gets enough bounce to operate the receiver with no trouble.
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I recently purchased a 28ft 2012 FC and have the same delemna on where to put the receiver. Has anyone invested taking the receiver apart to see if it is practicle to just remote the sensor? In that fashion the receiver could be mounted in the storage areas under the dinette. Hiding 30mil wires would be a whole easier then 1/4" cables?
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:09 AM   #12
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I recently purchased a 28ft 2012 FC and have the same delemna on where to put the receiver. Has anyone invested taking the receiver apart to see if it is practicle to just remote the sensor? In that fashion the receiver could be mounted in the storage areas under the dinette. Hiding 30mil wires would be a whole easier then 1/4" cables?
After starting this thread a few months ago I bit the bullet and had a satellite dish installed by the dealer on the roof. It's a folding, mechanized dish called a Travler by Winegard. What it does that the other don't do is self sync with the satellites and works with Direct TV HD.

There's a control box on the top shelf of the closet, a couple of coax cables from the dish and two HDMI cables one going to each TV. I put in a HDMI splitter to take the signal from the back of the receiver and feed to each TV. I also purchased a RF remote from Direct TV.

I'm on a trip now with my home DVR, the entire system works extremely well. Among other things I'm getting my home local stations and best of all able to watch all the SF Giants games and even record them and loose the commercials.

Right now I'm at a wide open RV park with no trees blocking the signal. Last month I did park under some trees. I was able to get good signals and solid HD but the dish had trouble syncing the channel guide. I suspect if I'm really under a thick cover I"m going to be out of luck.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:17 PM   #13
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I've got a 2008 Classic 25FB. The satellite/cable jumper cable is located under the rear dinette table near the floor. In the cabinet above the dinette is the Sony radio. The TV is located on the refrigerator wall. There is a 12v/booster connector. The TV coax is connected to this wall plate. There is no HDMI cable from the TV area to the Sony radio area.

So how is a satellite receiver connected? I've seen posts describing you disconnect the jumper (which is under the dinette table) and connect a coax from jumper plate to the coax input on the satellite receiver. Most satellite receivers send their signal to the TV via an HDMI cable not coax and I don't see a coax output connectors on satellite receivers now. So how do you get the satellite signal to the TV?

I was looking at the Tailgater antenna that I could connect to the the exterior cable connector.

I guess mounting the receiver on a basket under the dinette table is a good idea but there is no way to route HDMI unless I run a cable under the street side dinette seat then under the couch then up to the TV. That way audio could be routed to the TV also.

What about keeping the jumper connected and mounting the sat receiver by the TV and then run HDMI cable into the TV?

Please indicate what model receiver Dish or Directv you are using and how you connect the video and audio.

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Old 09-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #14
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I have done what you eluded too, place the receiver near the TV and use an HDMI cable to the TV. Using the trailers coax system degrades the the HD quality of a satellite system. Plus you have to fiddle around connecting disconnecting jumpers and cables. I ran a separate coax cable with an input on the outside of the trailer direct to the TV/receiver. You can sacrifice the phone line input and just drill through to the inside wall to route the coax over by the fridge/TV. This way you can switch between satellite and local antennae with out fussing with jumpers or A/B switches.

I have a tailgater and Dish 211 receiver which I use in home and trailer.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #15
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... I guess mounting the receiver on a basket under the dinette table is a good idea but there is no way to route HDMI unless I run a cable under the street side dinette seat then under the couch then up to the TV. That way audio could be routed to the TV also.
That's exactly what I did as that was the only practical way i could figure out to get HD content to the TV from a satellite receiver in a 2xFB. There is already an audio connection from the TV back to the radio in the locker above the dinette. If you turn the radio on and select the correct source, the TV audio is routed to the house speakers, so the audio in the HDMI goes to the TV, then back to the radio.
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The AS manual says to patch in a satellite receiver at the jumper plate; RF in then RF out on coax to the TVs. The Dish VIP211z that comes with the Tailgater antenna only has RF In. Why can't you just leave the jumper under the dinette table connected and place the satellite receiver by the TV hanging on the fridge wall, connect the coax there from the TV to the satellite receiver, turn off the inline amplifier and connect the sat receiver with a short HDMI cable to the TV?. Does the splitter down stream from the jumper, shown in the AS manual, goof up the satellite receivers signal?

Has anyone tried this?

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In my 30 FB Bunkhouse there is already an HDMI switch mounted in one of the overhead consoles along with the Blu-Ray player and radio. I had to remove the front panel surrounding the Blu-Ray player and tucked in underneath the player were 2 co-ax connections labeled Cable and Satellite. I pulled the Satellite connection through the existing feed through in the overhead wall and connected it to my satellite receiver which I mounted in this space. I ran an HDMI cable to the existing switch and went through the normal Tailgater setup screens. Works great.

I know that not everyone has the HDMI switch, but for those of us that do it couldn't be much easier.
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The AS manual says to patch in a satellite receiver at the jumper plate ...
It might make more sense to sketch this out on paper. In the basic configuration, the external cable connector on the trailer where you would normally connect your satellite antenna passes first through the jumper under the dinette then to the amplifier switch mounted next to the TV. The batwing on the roof is also connected to the amplifier switch.

With the switch on (LED lit) the batwing's amplifier is turned on and the TV is connected to the batwing. With the switch off, the TV is connected to the external connector. This is how you would connect to a park's CATV system. The jumper provides a means for connecting the external connector to the Sat In port on the back of your satellite receiver. On older pre-HD satellite receivers, there was an Antenna Out port on the receiver that passed the signal to the TV antenna port and the TV and Receiver had to be set to either channel 3 or 4.

You have the same DISH receiver I have. It was purpose built for HD programming that requires a digital connection (HDMI) to the TV so there is no Antenna Out port.

In a nutshell, you need a way to connect the satellite coax from the antenna to the Sat In port on the receiver and then run a HDMI or 5-cable component cable bundle from the receiver to the TV. One solution is to connect the receiver to the correct connector on the jumper plate and then conceal the HDMI cable as best you can from the receiver to the TV. Another possibility would be to insert a splitter behind the amplifier switch into the coax coming from the jumper. The output of the splitter would then feed the Sat In port on the receiver and you could figure out a way to mount the receiver below the TV. A caution here, the splitter by its design may attenuate the signal coming from the antenna and depending on design may block the the DC component that powers the LNB. A local DISH agent may be able to assist you with a splitter that will work. If you never plan to use a park's CATV system, you could dispense with the splitter and simply disconnect the coax (the one coming from the jumper plate) from the amplifier switch and connect it with a jumper and barrel connector to the receiver.
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Our 2013 25FB has the external access coax cable terminate by the DVD player in the rear overhead cabinet by the door. So we hooked the external coax to the back of the Dish receiver and velcroed the receiver to the DVD player and installed a 2 x 4 HDMI switch to transfer the HDMI signals from the DVD player or the Dish box to the rear television or front television. With the switch either signal source can be on either television as both sources will only support one telvision at a time.
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A caution here, the splitter by its design may attenuate the signal coming from the antenna and depending on design may block the the DC component that powers the LNB.

If the splitter behind the switch plate is controlled by the on off switch, On for antenna and off for cable I don't see why it would interfere with the power requirements of the Tailgater when its set to off.

I would like to see someone with a Tailgater and VIP211Z test that connection.


If that fails then it would be just as easy to lay coax next to a HDMI cable from the dinette area to the TV area by the fridge.

Rather that go the the trouble of mounting the receiver under the table ( the Classic table is so heavy it requires a double leg so space underneath it may be at a premium), I'd rather mount the receiver by the TV. Then the issue comes to having a shelf above the TV. Below makes it too easy to bump into.

If its more trouble than its worth we'll read instead and rent an occasional DVD.
TV is getting kinda sucky lately. Even though we have FIOS at home most of the shows we watch are on the major networks still.

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