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11-27-2014, 06:29 PM
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#281
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4 Rivet Member 
Commercial Member
2009 30' Classic
Melbourne, FL
, Searsport, ME
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 309
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Understood. I am just thinking if I put the router under the front bench it would be out of the way, not taking up normal storage spce, and I would not need to remeber to unplug it.
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Yes, your idea will work. Anywhere near the front inside of the trailer.
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11-30-2014, 12:21 AM
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#282
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3 Rivet Member 
2015 23' International
Lake Forest Park
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 136
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Fred Stokes,
I am also thinking of getting a tire pressure monitor system, which would communicate to an iPhone app via wifi.
Trucks : TPMS for smartphone with free app
Would I be able to utilize the router WAP from your system for this in addition to the camera? (As a go-between, to facilitate communication between my iPhone in the TV and the TPMS module in the trailer)
Charlie
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11-30-2014, 06:55 AM
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#283
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4 Rivet Member 
Commercial Member
2009 30' Classic
Melbourne, FL
, Searsport, ME
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 309
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Charlie,
I'm sorry, but I don't have any expertise regarding TPMS. I believe in them and have a Dill system myself. However, the LAN router should be able to serve other internal applications besides the camera. The tire pressure sensors would need to transmit to the router and the router to the smartphone that has the appropriate TPMS app installed. At least in theory, but I haven't researched any TPMS apps so I really don't know.
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11-30-2014, 07:42 AM
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#284
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Rivet Master 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 11,031
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I believe that TPMS all (that I know of) broadcast a radio signal, not "wireless". I don't think any phones are capable of receiving radio signals, even if there were an app.
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11-30-2014, 08:54 AM
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#285
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4 Rivet Member 
Commercial Member
2009 30' Classic
Melbourne, FL
, Searsport, ME
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 309
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I believe that TPMS all (that I know of) broadcast a radio signal, not "wireless".
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Rich,
Your're right. I had forgotten about this. That also explains why there's no RF interference between TPMS and wireless devices.
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11-30-2014, 09:50 AM
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#286
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,837
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The link for that TPMS says its repeater converts the sensor signal to a wifi signal, which goes to your phone. Doesn't sound like it needs the router, just mount their repeater at the front of the trailer. As long as their iPhone app will send alerts when running in the background it should be OK.
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2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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11-30-2014, 10:05 AM
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#287
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Rivet Master 
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Have you tested the router in the back of the Airstream? That is where my 12v plug is located in the cabinet over the rear dinette? Thanks
Kelvin
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11-30-2014, 10:14 AM
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#288
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4 Rivet Member 
Commercial Member
2009 30' Classic
Melbourne, FL
, Searsport, ME
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 309
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I have not, but I'm pretty sure at that distance the signal would more prone to break up. It's so easy to wire in a 12vdc socket I'd definitely recommend doing that instead.
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11-30-2014, 01:36 PM
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#289
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Rivet Master 

2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,043
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Garmin BC-20
I just installed the Garmin BC-20 backup camera on my trailer license plate, ran the extension cable under the airstream with cable ties to existing piping, and terminated in the battery box, with the wireless transmitter in the battery box. Works like a charm with the Garmin GPS. Better than some other things I was trying. I do not have it hooked up to the reverse so it will function as a rear view camera since my GPS is on the dash when pulling the trailer. I have a disconnect in the battery box for when I park for the night.
Larry
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11-30-2014, 01:42 PM
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#290
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Rivet Master 
2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
, Alberta
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I just installed the Garmin BC-20 backup camera on my trailer license plate, ran the extension cable under the airstream with cable ties to existing piping, and terminated in the battery box, with the wireless transmitter in the battery box. Works like a charm with the Garmin GPS. Better than some other things I was trying. I do not have it hooked up to the reverse so it will function as a rear view camera since my GPS is on the dash when pulling the trailer. I have a disconnect in the battery box for when I park for the night.
Larry
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Larry, I recently purchased a Garmin 760 LMT with BC20 and plan to install my camera in exactly the same manner (in the spring).
I thought I might have to rivet a few cable holders to the belly pan to route the cable, but if I can get away with cable ties all the way to the front of the trailer so much the better. I've been considering mounting the transmitter high up on the inside of the propane housing. I will put a switch on the transmitter red wire for disconnect, and connect directly to the batteries.
Did you drill holes in the bumper tray to route the wire underneath, or just pass it over the back of the bumper?
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11-30-2014, 01:50 PM
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#291
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,508
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Why not power it from the umbilical running lights connection? Then there is no switch to forget...
That way it shuts off when you turn the lights off. It's also a good idea to have the running lights on when you are towing-makes you more visible to other drivers.
We run our headlights when towing both day and night like a big rig. I just adjust the dash light dimmer for conditions as needed.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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11-30-2014, 01:56 PM
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#292
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Rivet Master 
2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
, Alberta
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Why not power it from the umbilical running lights connection? Then there is no switch to forget...
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A superior solution!
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11-30-2014, 01:57 PM
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#293
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,508
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From a forgetful engineer 😃
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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11-30-2014, 01:57 PM
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#294
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Rivet Master 

2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,444
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I just installed the Garmin BC-20 backup camera on my trailer license plate, ran the extension cable under the airstream with cable ties to existing piping, and terminated in the battery box, with the wireless transmitter in the battery box. Works like a charm with the Garmin GPS. Better than some other things I was trying. I do not have it hooked up to the reverse so it will function as a rear view camera since my GPS is on the dash when pulling the trailer. I have a disconnect in the battery box for when I park for the night.
Larry
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Sounds similar to what I was thinking only connect to the running lights. How did you run the cable from the license plate to the bottom of the trailer? I was also thinking of mounting the camera up high near the clearance lights and running the cable along the roof and down through the refer vent, then mount the transmitter in the refer compartment.
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11-30-2014, 02:10 PM
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#295
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Rivet Master 
2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
, Alberta
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Streamer
I was also thinking of mounting the camera up high near the clearance lights and running the cable along the roof and down through the refer vent, then mount the transmitter in the refer compartment.
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I considered this method as well, but felt the dis-advantages (transmitter further from the receiver, more solid material for the signal to go through, camera mount would require screws or rivets, how to secure wire running to reefer vent) outweigh the advantages (higher point of view, more security for camera).
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11-30-2014, 02:16 PM
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#296
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TinTin
I considered this method as well, but felt the dis-advantages (transmitter further from the receiver, more solid material for the signal to go through, camera mount would require screws or rivets, how to secure wire running to reefer vent) outweigh the advantages (higher point of view, more security for camera).
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Back up camera's have a usual working distance of about 150 feet, at least by those that we have tested.
Andy
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11-30-2014, 02:21 PM
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#297
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Rivet Master 

2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,043
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I ran the cable down from the plate to the bumper across to the end and down around the side of the bumper. I used heavy duty stick cable clips for this part. At that point there is a piece of aluminum you can fish through. I used the curb side because there is more piping to cable tie to. I did not want the system on the running lights as I leave my headlights in AUTO. A disconnect in the battery box better meets my needs.
Larry
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11-30-2014, 02:27 PM
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#298
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Rivet Master 
2009 23' FB Flying Cloud
Canmore
, Alberta
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,762
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I ran the cable down from the plate to the bumper across to the end and down around the side of the bumper. I used heavy duty stick cable clips for this part. At that point there is a piece of aluminum you can fish through. I used the curb side because there is more piping to cable tie to.
Larry
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Good information. Thanks.
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11-30-2014, 02:31 PM
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#299
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,508
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Makes sense. My Tacoma lights have auto-off with ignition switch, but have to be turned on manually. I just leave them on when we're on the road.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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12-02-2014, 04:53 PM
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#300
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3 Rivet Member 
2015 25' International
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
I just installed the Garmin BC-20 backup camera on my trailer license plate, ran the extension cable under the airstream with cable ties to existing piping, and terminated in the battery box, with the wireless transmitter in the battery box. Works like a charm with the Garmin GPS. Better than some other things I was trying. I do not have it hooked up to the reverse so it will function as a rear view camera since my GPS is on the dash when pulling the trailer. I have a disconnect in the battery box for when I park for the night.
Larry
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I have a 2014 23D FG and would like to mount a backup camera to the trail license plate. the Garmin BC-20 looks interesting. Has anyone else mounted a different brand of backup camera to the license plate? I am also thinking about mounting the camera inside looking out the rear window but i am concerned about the glare
Thanks for your help.
Bob
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