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Old 11-21-2008, 12:47 PM   #21
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You mention that your TV id Digital. Unfortunately that is a grossly miss used word. The important thing is does the TV have a "digital tuner". If it does you will be able to receive digital stations. Now that said digital signals are weaker than analog signals so you will either get a picture or a notation "No Signal"

I suspect your TV does not have a digital tuner and thus you will need a converter box.

I have wired my trailer for Cable, Sat. Ant. and Ant. Digital. I have attached a picture of the wiring but must add I am going to have to add a second A/B box because of interference on the lower channels while using a campground cable in an area that has local Digital Signals available.
According the Samsung, and the dealer, the TV in my AS has a digital tuner. But I am doubting that, since I cannot even access the digital options in the menu on the TV. But it could also be that the signal is weak. I get very poor analog reception here with the Antenna, so your comment is making me think perhaps if I were somewhere with better reception it might work. But since the warrenty is up in a week, I want to be sure. But it will be hard to take an hour drive just to check this out with Thanksgiving coming!

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Old 11-21-2008, 12:59 PM   #22
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Make a call to Samsung. I have found their customer service to be very good. They will at least be able to answer why the menu shows some items in gray scale and if in fact the tv has a digital tuner.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:17 PM   #23
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Diane~

We have an '07, but our TV was installed by the dealer, not Airstream. There is a little button on the outlet for DC power that has to be pushed in to get cable, pushed out for air. You might try this button if you have one. (You could also try to find a teenager, most of them seem to have a real good understanding of this stuff.)

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:25 PM   #24
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Make a call to Samsung. I have found their customer service to be very good. They will at least be able to answer why the menu shows some items in gray scale and if in fact the tv has a digital tuner.
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Actually I have been on the phone with Samsung for the last 20 minutes. I called them earlier in the week, but got no where. This time I spent 15 minutes with someone who was very nice,but knew absolutely nothing, and finally asked to be transferred to someone who had a clue. Wish I had said that sooner.

Basically they said my TV should pick up digital signals, but they may be too weak here. The options are greyed out when you are not receiving digital signal at all. They gave me a case number, and he said as long as this was recorded within my warrenty, they will honor the warrenty up to 90 days, and even 6 months later with special authorization. (meaning I guess that I would have to push the issue) My first dog show is in the end of March, and it is very close to Philadelphia, so I should get digital signal there. IF I don't then I will know the TV is defective.

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:27 PM   #25
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Also, for anyone else with the Samsung TV, they said you must run the channel programming option first to pick up digital channels. Even after doing that, I did not get digital channels. But it is important to know, since if you travel to different areas, you will need to run that option again to tune in the digital channels if using an antenna.

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:40 PM   #26
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My signal comes from the standard wineguard antenna into the built-in signal amplifier (behind the wall plate), through the trailer's coax to the rear where I feed it directly from that wall plate into a digital converter (velcroed to the tv) and from there to the tv.

Works fine and in fact I get a much better picture on all channels than I did before. I used to have to put the antenna one direction to pickup 5 of the channels and a different direction to pick up the 6th. Now I just position the antenna in one direction and leave it and I get all 6 channels. It needs the built-in signal amplifier though.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:59 PM   #27
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...<snip>...Basically they said my TV should pick up digital signals....>snip<...

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The first thing to do is to determine whether your TV has a digital receiver or not...find the serial number either on the TV or in the manual and go to the manufacturer's website...they should have a link to page with model numbers and information as to what models are digital tuner-equipped. That's what we did with or Sony...unfortunately, our Sony (in a 2006 AS) did not have the digital tuner...but with the box we added added we are able to receive up digital broadcasts quite well with our standard antenna....

Good luck! (PS: that suggestion about finding a techno-dweeb teenager is not a bad idea!! I feel so audio-visual challenged much of the time.)
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Old 11-22-2008, 08:45 AM   #28
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I did check and my TV has a digital receiver. I believe all 2008's with the 23" flat screen had digital tuners in the TV's.

I also spoke to Airstream, and they assured me that they would cover this under their warrenty if in February I am not able to get any reception. I was thinking my warrenty with AS was only one year, and the AS rep told me it is two years. He said they warrenty even the TV for two years. Funny that the dealer did not tell me that I had a two year warrenty! The AS rep made a record of my call, and said to call him if I have any problems. I felt very reassured after talking to the AS rep.


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Old 11-22-2008, 09:13 AM   #29
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I assume you are no further from Philadelphia then I am. I get 23 digital channel here in my driveway.

If you have not yet seen in print that your tv has a digital tuner I would assume it does not. Tvs were sold using the term Digital Ready, HD, High Definition and Digital Tuner. Only the last will receive a digital signal without a converter box.

If you know anyone that has purchased a converter box ask them if you can borrow it for an hour. Install it and check.
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What's the digital antenna look like? Any pictures?

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There is no such thing as a "digital antenna". An antenna is an antenna. Our old antenna laying up in the attic, the rabbit ears in the bedroom, or any other antenna that worked before will work just as well or better with the digital signals.

The digital picture, both at home and in the Airstream, is worlds sharper than the analog picture ever was. I can now get good reception in the Airstream many miles further away than before. At a recent rally in Stonewall, I had every Austin station clearly while the trailer next to me could get only one station and that with fairly poor reception. I even pick up stations as far away as San Antonio that I never knew were there.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:58 AM   #31
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I assume you are no further from Philadelphia then I am. I get 23 digital channel here in my driveway.

If you have not yet seen in print that your tv has a digital tuner I would assume it does not. Tvs were sold using the term Digital Ready, HD, High Definition and Digital Tuner. Only the last will receive a digital signal without a converter box.

If you know anyone that has purchased a converter box ask them if you can borrow it for an hour. Install it and check.
Our manual does say it has a digital tuner, and so does the Samsung help desk. But I am quite a bit farther from Philadelphia than you are. I am in Cape May County, less than a mile from the ocean.

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Old 11-25-2008, 10:49 AM   #32
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Since TV is line of sight, you may be too far from Philadelphia to get a digital signal. If your analog signal is strong, you should get digital, however if is is weak, but watchable, you most likely will not.

A year and a half ago we were at a Rally at Bass Lake, CA, in the hills 43 miles from Fresno, CA. Just for the fun of it, I hooked up the old antenna on our 1965 Caravel, and pointed it toward Fresno. We watched High Definition Digital from that location. Now, Bass Lake is about 2,000 feet higher than Fresno, so line of sight was not a problem. If you have hills, or tall nearby buildings, you will have trouble getting a digital signal from Philadelphia.

You might want to hook up and take a morning trip to somewhere close to Philadelphia and do a channel search, and see what you get, before you make yourself crazy with doubt. You may well find that you are in good shape, and have no problem except distance.

Also, antenna direction is much more critical with digital than with analog. Just a few degrees off, and you get nothing, especially at a distance.
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also antennaweb.org has a lot of info - they have a chart that indicated what stations are available when you type in your zip code. If you know where you are travelling to you could know in advance what's available!

They also describe VHF and UHF reception. the low channels on VHF usually come in a little off here at the vinyard. (3 & 6 ) I'm looking forward to the new format.

The antenna on the Excella was missing when I acquired it - so now I'll be researching the newer UHF antennas for use while traveling. I'm thinking that the current line of trailer antenna's will be revamped when the buying public understands what dtv reception is all about.
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also antennaweb.org has a lot of info - they have a chart that indicated what stations are available when you type in your zip code. If you know where you are travelling to you could know in advance what's available!

They also describe VHF and UHF reception. the low channels on VHF usually come in a little off here at the vinyard. (3 & 6 ) I'm looking forward to the new format.

The antenna on the Excella was missing when I acquired it - so now I'll be researching the newer UHF antennas for use while traveling. I'm thinking that the current line of trailer antenna's will be revamped when the buying public understands what dtv reception is all about.
Please do not purchase a special antenna the normal Winegard that is on most trailers will receive all the digital signals. The advertisements you see for Digital Antennas are just because cars are not selling and they ran out of snake oil.
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Howie-- My excella does not have an antenna!!

I was thinking about getting a "small" UHF unit that I could bring along on my wood kayak. dual function.

about the revampin--

in the future I would think that the big old ugly space taking up wingard will be a thing of the past. Opening up more roof space for mounting of solar panels or R/C helicopter rooftop LZ.
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:43 AM   #36
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[quote=doorgunner;641870]Howie-- My excella does not have an antenna!!

I was thinking about getting a "small" UHF unit that I could bring along on my wood kayak. dual function.
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Great idea maybe I will fit the front seat of my kayak with an TV and a couple of batteries for solo kayaking.
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and a small solar array deck mounted to power the tele and trickle the batts!!

O.K. enough of the hijack.

I was trying to give folks a better understanding of wave propagation, uhf/vhf types.
The antenna web I listed does a great job on explaining this mystical transfer of energy..and what lind of antenna would work best for one's needs. Me I need another cup o joe
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:42 PM   #38
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Great information Doorgunner, and Howie.

I checked the website Anntennaweb.org, what a helpful site! According to them, I should be able to receive some digital signals at my house. There are a few stations much closer than Philadelphia, but I am not getting those stations either. I think I will have to get my my hubby to take a ride in the next few weeks so we can find out for sure if I have a problem, or if it is just my location.

Ahhh.....Kayaking, now that is something that will have to wait till spring! Maybe a nice trip down the Mullica or Oswego rivers in the Pine barrens.

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I have a 2007 25' Safari FB w/Sony "HDTV ready" 19 unit. I believe I need to add a digital converter to get DTV signals from my Winegard antenae which I recently upgraded with a "Wingman" add-on. The thing is that from time to time would still want to take advantage of a campground's cable. I believe my antenea and the cable connection are tapped into the common feed into the Sony unit. Is there an optimum place to install the digital conveter. Can I continue to use my Sony remote with the antenea feed thru the converter box? Is there a Sony add-on product that would take this TV from Digital Ready to HDTV? Thanks!
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I just replaced my Sony 19" for these reasons; I didn't want another box to mount, drawing more power, more cables to route around, another remote control, and the confusion of trying to pass a cable signal through when we are in campgrounds that have it. There are lots of good HDTV's around in that size for around $200 or less.
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