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Old 07-03-2017, 06:50 PM   #1
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Very poor reception with this antenna in my 2017, big disappointment. Not unusual for neighbours to get twice the number of channels with their more traditional crank-ups. Apparently the ducted air conditioning prevented the adjustable Winegard antennas. Has anyone figured out a better performing replacement?
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Old 07-06-2017, 10:40 AM   #2
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I hope you get an answer we have the same complaint.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:16 PM   #3
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Spent time on the phone with AS Service over this same issue. Also called and talked to Winegard techs about optimal installation of the RoadStar antenna (per Winegard, antenna should be mounter at a minimum of 18 inches from the center of the antenna to any roof top obstruction and be higher than the tallest rooftop obstruction). When the antenna sets lower than any surrounding rooftop obstructions, reception will be adversely effected. I asked Winegard if they offer a taller pedestal to raise the antenna above the AC, roof vents, and other obstructions, and they do not. Asked them if upgrading to the Rayzar Automatic would make any difference and their reply was , probably not for the same reason. At this time, I'm seriously considering designing a motorized mast to raise an OTA antenna higher for optimal reception. When you are camping at Airstream's Terra Port in Jackson Center and are unable to receive the OTA station, using the RoadStar, from Dayton OH or any other surrounding communities, on flat terrain, that's a problem. It's even worse when hills, mountains and tall building block the signals.
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I hope you get an answer we have the same complaint.


Me too !
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:05 PM   #5
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We solved this problem by getting a bundle antenna and receiver from DISH.

Kidding.

Ok so you aren't going to get the performance out of this annular pattern antenna, powered or not.

The days of clipping on a Wingard Wingman to boost SNR are unfortunately over.

Short of replacing the existing unit with a directional array, I don't see a solution. My guess is the market place has determined that with today's customer using the internet or satellite for entertainment, designing a good mechanical directional OTA RV antenna is not worth the cost savings of not having a hole in the roof, mechanical complexity and additional maintenance (small, obviously) and risk of traveling with it erected.

Edit to add: I'd be looking for something like this:

Vilso TV Antenna Outdoor Amplified - Motorized 360° Degree Rotation - Digital HDTV Antenna - 150 Miles Range - Wireless Remote https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SFXDSVC..._J-UyzbJG24TVG
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Made this for my 8.5 db gain WiFi antenna, to raise and lower it. I'm thinking that I could do something similar for a small omni-directional OTA television antenna.
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:07 AM   #7
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We had JC techs look at our issue as well. We only received 2 channels at JC and they used them to diagnosis the issue. Well they said it is fine. No mention that we should get more channels nor that the fans or the USB ports over the beds cause interference. Now we are seeing that with the front TV on And the BR TV that the BR TV gets worse. UGH.... My wife calls the front TV the "Dumb TV" not the Smart TV as it is, as it skips worse than the BR TV.

Tsunami-v2, That set up can work for a omni directional antenna. Can you post the set up you engineered including the motor info? Will the motor handle a larger mass such as the King Jack? I am surely interested.
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Not high-jacking this thread, but here what I did for WiFi. I fabricated the triangular mount out of stainless steel. It's attached to the air conditioner deflector with three small stainless steel bolts with nyloc-nuts. Also attached a stiffener between the AC deflector and the refrigerator vent for stability. The motor is a Diamond "K" 9000. I talked with the reseller (they are big into HAM radio) about the weight on the WiFi antenna and reassured me that it wasn't a problem. Depends upon the weight of the TV antenna. I have an up/down switch in the wardrobe right below the antenna, to the left of the power switch for the wireless router. Of course it's 12vDC power. I'm thinking a mount between the roof frame rails as a base for the TV antenna might work. Still thinking about options. Glad to answer any questions.
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Not high-jacking this thread, but here what I did for WiFi. I fabricated the triangular mount out of stainless steel. It's attached to the air conditioner deflector with three small stainless steel bolts with nyloc-nuts. Also attached a stiffener between the AC deflector and the refrigerator vent for stability. The motor is a Diamond "K" 9000. I talked with the reseller (they are big into HAM radio) about the weight on the WiFi antenna and reassured me that it wasn't a problem. Depends upon the weight of the TV antenna. I have an up/down switch in the wardrobe right below the antenna, to the left of the power switch for the wireless router. Of course it's 12vDC power. I'm thinking a mount between the roof frame rails as a base for the TV antenna might work. Still thinking about options. Glad to answer any questions.


That's awesome. JC should be doing this as standard equipment, instead of supplying things like a WIRED LAN BluRay Player from what 2011?

Seriously, that's excellent.
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Nicely done!
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One of you guys might know the answer to this: is it possible to repurpose the existing M303 radio external antenna for WiFi?

My understanding is that WiFi runs at 2.4GHz. So would this antenna be broad spectrum enough so as not to cause any SWR issues? Any thoughts as to the gain one might get?

I use an external mag-mount 7 dB whip for my camp-facing powered repeater using ddwrt and a power amp. Generally I just affix it to one of the steel speaker grills.

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I use this to supply a DHCP signal to my AS facing E2500 router for all 9 of my wireless devices internal to AS.

This works pretty well, but it would be cool if I could get my signal up on top of the AS and use it as a big ground plane, too.

PS sorry for the thread hijack.
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So just rehashing the question , is there any antenna that will mount in the same area as the "mushroom" and receive ota better ? Or is there a way to mount a rotating antenna on the late model trailers with ducted air ?
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I have spent way to much time on-line looking for a solution, none found that I like. I have a friend with a mill (3 axis) and if I find a spare pedestal from one of the factory installed antennas, I'm going to have him turn one out and make it about a foot taller. I'm going off the premises, based upon other SOB's (Some Other Brands) of trailers that use this antenna and it's subjected to the wind sheer forces while driving and/or parked that required no special beefed up roof structure support. I'm doing more research and will think this thing to ground before the first hold is drilled, screw is driven, or adhesive to squirted out of a tube. As has been stated in the move Hunt for Red October "Son the Russians don't take a dump without a plan"!
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What about the winegard automatic rayzar ,or the rayzar Z1 ? Either of these worth the effort ,to get greater range .and with minimum abuse of the roof ?
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What about the winegard automatic rayzar ,or the rayzar Z1 ? Either of these worth the effort ,to get greater range .and with minimum abuse of the roof ?
I looked at these unit and seriously considered the Razyar1. Thought about making some stainless steel feet/extensions to raise the whole antenna up higher than the rooftop obstructions, but again, with the ducted roof top, need to know best mounting points to alleviate wind-shear issue. Since installing 2 100w solar panels (from AM Solar) using 3M VHB tape and Sikaflex adhesive/sealer (no mechanical fasteners) and knowing that combinations outstanding track record, the Rayzar1 might just be my solution.Need to at the what's required for the control panel and where to locate it. Next up on my enhancement list, Maxis Skylights.
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After searching a bit , i found a post by Lewster ,in which he said he has installed several king jack's on the late model trailers.so I'm strongly leaning that way. Hoping someone has details of how to drill the hole thru ,and if it needs any reinforcing .
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Does the king jack set higher than the winegard? Was looking at King Jack web site and the antenna base looks to have significantly larger footprint, making wonder about attaching it to the roof. Also the specs state the height is only 9 inches tall, so getting the antenna above the rooftop obstructions is still an issue. Looks like a nice product.
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I double checked , unless im wrong its 11.5 inch high. On my 2017 25fb mushroom is forward of ac and behind vent
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The winegard rayzar z1 , my second choice is 8.5 high
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This looks interesting. This would work for all three, cell,Wifi,HDTV. Wonder if anyone was experience with install and performance.


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