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Old 07-31-2013, 04:56 PM   #21
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Thanks for letting me know that...mine is non functional for now...might play with it next week to see how it works. The crank is broken.
Parts are available to fix the worm-gear mechanism that raises and lowers it.

Braund worm gear kit.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:42 AM   #22
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Thanks SATX...much obliged for the link.I'll tear the old one down tomorrow,and see what gives. Do you do linear dishes,and C-band?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:22 AM   #23
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There has always been a large amount of confusion regarding digital TV. I spent the first half of 2009 traveling around trying to educate people on it. I'm no engineer, but talked with plenty about the issues.

As someone mentioned, radio waves are radio waves, no changes there. However the encoding system changed (that's why you need a digital TV) and that did change reception patterns as digital receivers really needed a higher quality signal (multipathing is commonly tossed out, which explains lousy reception in Manhattan where many broadcast antennae are located). A good antenna will reduce the effect of multipathing and therefore help in urban areas as well as mountainous regions. I am a big fan of Winegard because I think they put effort into design. But be aware that different antennas will work better under different circumstances. As Swampthang7 mentioned, a bare wire may work just fine.

If you want to get the full complement of stations, you need to have an antenna that has VHF and UHF elements. While many more stations are now UHF, in most cities at least one major network remained in the VHF band. And VHF can be a bitch to pick up (just the opposite from the analog days). Directional can be quite good if all of your stations are in the same direction. This is commonly the case when you are in outer suburbs. If you are at the edge of the metropolitan area, such as Kenosha, WI you may have stations in two directions (Chicago and Milwaukee). However, because the stations tend to be the same networks, a directional antenna can just be pointed at those you want (Chicago, for instance).

Which way do I point my antenna? Look at TV Fool or AntennaWeb - Home

Finally, the receiver in your TV is probably more important than the brand of antenna. This is where many of the problems get sorted out. Smart engineers can do wonders. I would go to consumer reports and focus on their evaluation of the receiver quality of the TV.
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Old 02-26-2015, 12:57 PM   #24
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King Jack Digital Antenna Install Questions

We have a 2006 19' Bambi Safari SE, and the batwing antenna has broken, so we are using this as an opportunity to upgrade to the King Jack Antenna (Model OA8200 ... pic below). It replaces the crank-up antenna so the arm will go away.

Has anyone done this on a newer model 19' Bambi? The antenna itself gets good reviews, but each rig is a little different...

My concerns are:
(1) the spacing/position of the antenna relative to clearing the Fantastic Vent...

(2) the availability of 12v at the antenna interior base in the ceiling, which has LED lights to indicate signal strength... There is a wall plate similar to the one in it now (but without the 12v outlet, which I don't want to loose if I don't have to) to send 12v to the antenna... Will the current plate work with the Jack and send 12v power to it ... or do I need to replace the current wall plate with the one that comes with the unit?

Any hints, tips or pitfalls experienced will be helpful. I am having it installed by Oasis RV in Tucson. Thanks!
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:25 PM   #25
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If that doesn't pan out you can get another batwing mount and King sells their head in a kit meant for Winegard mounts.

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Old 04-22-2015, 04:57 PM   #26
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Analog broadcast is dead and gone. It's all digital now. HD is a subset of digital; all HD is digital, but not all digital is HD. So, if you want to pick up broadcast television, you need at least a digital antenna. But if you want to view broadcast HD, you really need an HD antenna and an HD television.,,,.
Excuse me but... that's pure baloney.

My 2008 Sport came with a Mitsubishi analog flat screen which does not have a digital/HD receiver so I bought a new HD TV at WM (El Cheapo brand)_ and installed it.
This Airstream is sitting INSIDE my all metal hangar (steel bldg), 40 miles out west of Austin and 90 miles north of San Antonio and 80 miles SW of Wacko, Texas...and my Sport retains it's original "analog" Winegard batwing with NO side-lobe at all!.. and it picks up 32 HD channels from Austin, San Antonio, Waco, etc etc just fine! If ever there was a reason for an antenna NOT to work...it'd be INSIDE an all metal bldg!
I don't even have to "rotate" it to receive most of those channels, the pic an audio is fine! It even receives when laid down.
DO NOT FALL for HD antenna hype! HD air broadcast requires no special "digital" or "HD" antennas at all. Pure BS.
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Old 04-22-2015, 05:57 PM   #27
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Mostly hype, yes, except for the uhf/vhf changes. Of olden time, the most widely watched channels in most areas were vhf. In the dtv migration most of the vhf stations have moved to the uhf spectrum. Older antenna setups were better optimized for vhf.. newer ones are better optimized for uhf.

The Winegard "batwing" is a balanced design that gets both vhf and uhf, still imo the best available for rv use.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:06 AM   #28
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No Reception

I purchased a 2012 International Serenity this past summer. I have tried on several occasions to receive a broadcast TVsignal with no luck. Is there magic to this that is not in the airstream book? ( I know, what book?)

I have:
turned on the Samsung Flat Screen HD TV
Raised the Winegard antennae
Selected the source to be the Antenna
Searched for channels
and get nothing but snow.

What am I missing?
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:22 AM   #29
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I purchased a 2012 International Serenity this past summer. I have tried on several occasions to receive a broadcast TVsignal with no luck. Is there magic to this that is not in the airstream book? ( I know, what book?)

I have:
turned on the Samsung Flat Screen HD TV
Raised the Winegard antennae
Selected the source to be the Antenna
Searched for channels
and get nothing but snow.

What am I missing?
Did you turn on the Winegard antenna amplifier, then make sure your tv is set for air antenna instead of cable and then set the tv for searching for stations.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:10 PM   #30
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I guess that's what I'm missing: how do I turn on the Winegard antenna amplifier?
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:57 PM   #31
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Does the area you are in clear to receive HD digital signals?
The higher you can get the antenna the better your chances
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:06 PM   #32
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I can only assume it does. I'm in Tulsa Oklahoma. The antenna is as up as it can go.
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Yay! I found the magic button that turns on the antenna amplifier. It's located just to the right of the TV in the galley.
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Not at first but we discovered the small (<1/8") button on the antenna outlet cover plate under our dinette table. When pushed, an LED light turns on, showing we have the TV antenna amplifier on. (If on cable at a park or at home, this button must be turned off to get cable.) But still we weren't getting stations other than one or two very strongest in an urban area and nothing at all in the countryside. Changed antennas twice, ended up with Jack mounted atop the winegard arms. Still nothing until finally traced the concealed coax in the trailer and found cut cable. Fixed this and we get as many broadcast stations as anyone around us, and we get analog and HD both over the same antenna. Who'd a thunk? Too bad we didn't find the root problem before we replaced the antennas - the Winegard is a great antenna. Our Jack antenna is fine but we could've saved time and money if we'd only diagnosed correctly the first time.
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:14 PM   #35
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Find and turn on the power to the amplifier--should be a wall plate somewhere with a pushbutton and an LED to let you know it is turned on. That's how the signal gets to the TV from the antenna instead of your cable TV inlet plate outside....
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Got it. Thanks all!
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RF propagation is truly a "black art" but reception isn't so tricky. The old batwing Winegard works just as well on "digital" HD as it did on the old analog broadcasts.

I don't think it's anything worth spending money on to buy/install a "modern, HD, Digital" antenna at all. Until I wipe it off on a tree or overhang it's staying.
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Yes. Working fine now.
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Having a 2016 28 foot FC, it came with the Winegard white disk TV antenna and it's the worst! I'd like to be able to install the old crank-up batwing, but with the new style humped rood, it's just not doable. Still looking for an alternative.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:11 PM   #40
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I have heard both good and bad, more bad, about the winegard white disk TV OTR antenna airstream is using on newer models vs the crankup batwing thing.

has anyone or a couple of AS tested the difference between batwing and disk say at the same campground side by side so to speak.

In reading reviews the Jack type OTR antenna may be the best non batwing device.

https://www.amazon.com/KING-OA8501-D.../dp/B01N6B33MK

check it out..

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