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Gene · 12-02-2007, 08:15 PM

My Safari came with a Samsung HDTV. I looked in the Samsung owner's manual and it said the temperature limits for the TV were -4˚ and 113˚.

I imagine there's a way to unhook it from the mounting bracket and all those wires are a lot less than on my living room home theater setup, but I'm not looking for another thing to do.

In the summer, I'm sure temps in the trailer can go over 113˚, but I'm not about to remove it every time it's hot.

In a few weeks it could be below zero here in the morning, so I'd better get slightly motivated.

Anyone remove their TV's in winter?

Gene

2airishuman · 12-02-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CrawfordGene

...Anyone remove their TV's in winter?..Gene

not me.

there are several threads on this topic (some are funny)

i think the BIG issue long term (over years) is that the electronic connectors, adhesives and board goo can dry out.

there are tv/video makers that have 'rv/marine' models

reported to have more durable connectors, better resistance to vibration, thicker adhesives, goo and so on...

that info has been posted also.

is there an lcd screen in your truck? how about the sony radio face in the trailer?

my solar display monitor is also lcd.

obviously you aren't going to watch tv at 5 below,

and warming/cooling should be at a gradual rate.

i think the sony models have a slightly wider temp range than you've posted for s-sung, but not much.

did you notice there are also altitude parameters for these tvs and cameras and computers...

some of this stuff is like 'expiration dates' on bottled water

cheers
2air'

bobandcarla · 12-02-2007, 09:15 PM

Short and simple. Yes.

vswingfield · 12-02-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandcarla

Short and simple. Yes.

Why?

zamboni · 12-02-2007, 10:54 PM

"Short and simple."

Does that mean you're not tall and not very bright!? Just couldn't resist...it getting late and I should be asleep.

zamboni · 12-02-2007, 10:56 PM

"Do you remove the TV in winter?"
I originally thought this was going to about tow vehicles...kinda obvious you'd remove it in winter.

wheel interested · 12-03-2007, 01:15 AM

We did last year, we did not this year. I think it is as 2Air replied. The dealerships do not remove them as they winter in the lots. But it is not that difficult to remove it. I kind of like it being there in case I go out to the AS and want to watch a little tv. One less thing to monkey with for a trip or store in the house. Being cautious is always a good thing though and now I will ask hubby what he thinks again.

FrenchBern · 12-03-2007, 02:49 AM

Over a month ago I sent this question to Sony America about which of the 2 systems (LCD or Plasma) could withstand a wider temp range. I vaguely remember from a decade ago that one of them could not stand freezing temp. according to some article. I have an LCD TV/monitor in my AS and the colors are washed out at 40 F but were ok half hour later.

thecatsandi · 12-03-2007, 06:18 AM

Can you put a small electric heater in the trailer?

I don't remove my LCD tvs I move the whole trailer south!

Aerowood · 12-03-2007, 08:13 AM

This was a big question for us at work a few years ago. All of our research stations on our C130 have flat screen moniters mounted to the front. We were spending a winter flying between Churchhill Manitoba and Thule Greenland with the aircraft cold soaking at night. We did some tests in our temp chamber, and found out that the critical temp was the temp where the moniter was turned on not setting static. So as long as we did not turn them on below the rated temp they were fine. At the high end they just shut down until they have cooled.
For what its worth the cabin would cold soak to around -30 C and it would take about 3 hours to bring it up to zero C before we turned on any of the moniters

Gene · 12-03-2007, 09:08 AM

I figured the radio is a car model, so it probably has a wider temperature range, though I didn't check. I don't know how 2air finds all these threads, but I did find something about someone removing the monitor panel. The Samsung says not to use it below 50˚—probably explains why FrenchBern's colors are washed out at 40˚.

Barb suggested an electric heater, but my thought is it would use a lot of electricity and rates keep going up. If the heater could be set to 10˚, maybe that would be a good idea, but I doubt they have that kind of temp control.

I have noticed some electronics have altitude parameters, but didn't check that as I don't want to bury the Safari to meet the altitude range.

It doesn't often get below -10˚ here and I may be able to rationalize that Samsung gives very conservative ranges, so I'm ok. Not sure what to do.

Gene

ScottW · 12-03-2007, 10:36 AM

Nope!

bobandcarla · 12-03-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vswingfield

Why?

In the winter I let the grandchildren watch the tv in the spare bedroom but I thought it was a good idea just because of the cold. I guess from reading this it's ok to leave it in but it's not a big deal to take it out.

bobandcarla · 12-03-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamboni

"Short and simple."

Does that mean you're not tall and not very bright!? Just couldn't resist...it getting late and I should be asleep.

Gene · 12-03-2007, 02:25 PM

"Originally Posted by zamboni
"Short and simple."

Does that mean you're not tall and not very bright!? Just couldn't resist...it getting late and I should be asleep."

I thought it was their nicknames: Short Bob and Simple Carla.

Another case of lack of self control and it's not late either…

Gene

Steve & Susan · 12-03-2007, 03:26 PM

We remove it for a couple of reasons...

1. It can't be stolen if the AS gets broken into.
2. It's out of warranty and expensive to replace - why take chances.
3. Like everything else regarding our AS - we're very ..... retentive.

Happy Trails!

romap · 12-03-2007, 04:02 PM

I remember reading that very cold temperatures are not good for LCD displays. So, being who and what I am, I remove the T-V each winter just to play it safe. It can and does get to 20 below here - brrrrrr, I don't even want to think about that!

Gene · 12-03-2007, 07:13 PM

I think: 3.5 yes, 5.5 no, 4 didn't answer or were incomprehensible (one apparently removes his tow vehicle instead). Of the "no's", one lives in Mississippi (is it possible to get to -4˚ there?) and one drives south. The halves did one year, not the next. Discount the ones who go south, and it's even. Margin of error: ±50%.

What does this prove? Be careful what you ask for.

Gene

ROBERTSUNRUS · 12-03-2007, 09:40 PM

Hi, at about 100+ degrees the liquid leaks out of my LCD TV and makes a big mess;

I learned to put a tray under it and use a tiny funnel to pour it back in.

And at 32 degrees or lower the Liquid Crystalizes on the Display.

Forget the darn TV, I don't work in those temperatures.

Sugarfoot · 12-04-2007, 08:57 PM

Gene, thanks for bringing this up, I'd never even though about it. If Robert's HDTV leaks at 100+, mine would melt completely with trailer interior temps exceeding 125 degrees as it did several days this past summer.

So I guess I'll be removing the new LCD HDTV during inclimate weather. So, this response is an unqualified "YES", or "yes, I will from now on", or incomprehensible (or quickly becoming so).