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08-26-2018, 10:25 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 57
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Antenna replacement
I have a 2014 19’ FC with a batwing tv antenna and I would like to replace it with a more modern and efficient model. Anyone have any suggestion?
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08-26-2018, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 27' Classic FB
Ridgefield
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 578
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We wanted to replace ours when we were at Jackson Center last summer. The advice from them was to leave it as is. Apparently the opinion is the Winegard batwing is better than anything you could replace it with.
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John
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08-26-2018, 12:51 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,033
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Hi
Better and more efficient = larger antenna on a taller mast. Yes, you can do this. Is that *really* what you want to have on the top of your trailer? I'm betting not. If you *are* after something big, chime in and various folks among the group can supply details.
As mentioned above, *any* of the new / small / low profile antennas will do a worse job than what you now have in terms of picking up signals. They will be far more cute.
Bob
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08-26-2018, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,910
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I installed the new King Jack antenna, the shorty OA8200, and can state the following; "reception is no different, there is no risk of forgetting to crank down the mast, and it is easier to find the stations when using the built-in signal meter." The process was straight forward and it freed up terrain for solar panels.
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"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement."
Sir Tristan
Air #48582, S/SO #003, WBCCI #4584
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08-26-2018, 11:52 PM
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,098
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Yup. I’m going to one to have more room for solar panels and ham radio antennae on the roof.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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08-27-2018, 06:33 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,033
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Hi
Having played "who can get what station" a few times when bored at remote campsites .... the old crank up's always win.
Bob
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08-27-2018, 10:10 PM
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,098
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Antenna replacement
We rarely, if ever use the television. I think it got used two days in the last 5 years so far, when the weather was too ugly to risk traveling in West Texas. Plugged in to cable tv at the KOA and watched weather reports, mostly.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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08-27-2018, 10:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchie
I have a 2014 19’ FC with a batwing tv antenna and I would like to replace it with a more modern and efficient model. Anyone have any suggestion?
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wow, replaced with the same, but with newer model batwing
works great !
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08-28-2018, 01:10 AM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,926
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Do NOT change to the round "flying saucer" omnidirectional antennas used on new Airstreams. They do NOT pick up nearly as many channels in low signal areas as the earlier antennas that could be turned (and raised higher above the roof) to maximize signal strength. It is an engineering fact that an an omnidirectional antenna will never have the same "signal gain" as a directional antenna.
The ONLY advantages of the flying saucers are that you cannot forget to lower them and they take up less space on the roof. I suspect these are the reasons Airstream changed to them, NOT because they work better.
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Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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08-28-2018, 08:54 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 57
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Thank you all for your insight. You have helped me decide to stay status quo.
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08-28-2018, 09:02 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2018 26' Flying Cloud
Oriental
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 106
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I started a thread recently about reception, which only got one response. I agree with Joe that the new, low profile omnidirectional antennas do not work all that well. I don't think AS is really concerned about giving us the absolute best in antennas.
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10-10-2018, 01:46 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,416
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Let me throw something out there to consider. We have an Airstream friend that mounted one of the round omni-directional disc antenna's to the top of his antenna mast and claims great reception. He needed to make a new mounting base for it to work but it raises and lowers just like it was designed to do and works well for him. Gonna try it myself one of these days.
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Roger in NJ
" Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the rest"
Winston Churchill 1948
TAC - NJ 18
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10-10-2018, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master 

2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,098
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"Omnidirectional" when applied to antennas just means it receives signals equally badly in all directions... (A little Ham radio humor there, but it's true...)
In most cases, an antenna that needs aiming will get a much stronger signal over the "omnidirectional" type, when aimed correctly. With digital television systems nowadays, you either have 'enough' signal to get a picture, or you get nothing. A directional antenna can get a better signal to the set's tuner, and make a difference.
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Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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