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Old 03-05-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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Adding HDMI to Bedroom

I have a 2007, 27'FB. The bedroom television has a coaxial cable outlet from the factory. Has anyone with a similar setup tried to add an HDMI cable to their bedroom? I am wondering if I will have any luck attaching a cord to the existing coax then pulling it from the antenna junction box on the living room side of the refrigerator, then pulling both the coax and HDMI cables back through with the cord. I could then use the same satellite box for both televisions and have HDMI in the bedroom for HD along with the existing coax for antenna. (I have an HDMI splitter.)

Does anyone know if the existing coax is anchored or restricted from pulling it through in that way?
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I have a 2007, 27'FB. The bedroom television has a coaxial cable outlet from the factory. Has anyone with a similar setup tried to add an HDMI cable to their bedroom? I am wondering if I will have any luck attaching a cord to the existing coax then pulling it from the antenna junction box on the living room side of the refrigerator, then pulling both the coax and HDMI cables back through with the cord. I could then use the same satellite box for both televisions and have HDMI in the bedroom for HD along with the existing coax for antenna. (I have an HDMI splitter.)

Does anyone know if the existing coax is anchored or restricted from pulling it through in that way?
Unlike coax, HDMI plugs are somewhat larger than the cable they're attached to, and may not fit through some of the spaces you want the HDMI cable to go through.
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Unlike coax, HDMI plugs are somewhat larger than the cable they're attached to, and may not fit through some of the spaces you want the HDMI cable to go through.

Very true. I posted this hoping that someone else has done this or at least tried. I'm hoping not to have to "find out the hard way"!
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If you figure out a way to do it, please post your solution. I would love to do the same thing to take advantage of my satelite box which is hidden under my dinette. One possible solution is to route a cable up through the refrigerator vent, across the roof and then down through the sewer vent that is just inside the bedroom wall. I read a post where someone routed an outside cable down from this vent, drilled a hole in the PVC pipe then sealed it after the cable was pulled through. I've already removed my refrigerator vent to route a 12 volt power cord for my wifi router and it was no big deal to replace.
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I have a 2007, 27'FB. The bedroom television has a coaxial cable outlet from the factory. Has anyone with a similar setup tried to add an HDMI cable to their bedroom? I am wondering if I will have any luck attaching a cord to the existing coax then pulling it from the antenna junction box on the living room side of the refrigerator, then pulling both the coax and HDMI cables back through with the cord. I could then use the same satellite box for both televisions and have HDMI in the bedroom for HD along with the existing coax for antenna. (I have an HDMI splitter.)

Does anyone know if the existing coax is anchored or restricted from pulling it through in that way?
You could use a baylan switch. A baylan switch on each end. A HDMI cable is connected to the baylan switch and you pull two CAT6 cables to transit the signal. I did this and it works great. You do need power on each end.
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You could use a baylan switch. A baylan switch on each end. A HDMI cable is connected to the baylan switch and you pull two CAT6 cables to transit the signal. I did this and it works great. You do need power on each end.
that got my curiosity going. when I googled it I got links to network switches from Karachi, Pakistan.

Its an HDMI balun. here's an example...

Amazon.com: HDMI over Cat 5 / Cat 6 Extender Balun: Electronics
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You could use a baylan switch. A baylan switch on each end. A HDMI cable is connected to the baylan switch and you pull two CAT6 cables to transit the signal. I did this and it works great. You do need power on each end.
Did you run two cables between the galley and the bedroom? How did you do it?
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Did you run two cables between the galley and the bedroom? How did you do it?
I didn't do it in my AS, I did it in my basement, but for the same reasons - difficult to route HDMI, and cost of HDMI cable. You do have to route two cables - to receive and send data bacon to blu ray or satellite.

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I didn't do it in my AS, I did it in my basement, but for the same reasons - difficult to HDMI, and cost of HDMI cable. You do have to route two cables - to receive and send data bacon to blu ray ohor satellite.

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The actual distance the HDMI between the galley and the bedroom in an Airstream is not cost prohibitive--any number of reasonably priced 20-25 foot HDMI cables are available. I just bought a 25 foot HDMI cable from Amazon for $7.25 including free Prime 2 day shipping. The real problem is routing it a shorter distance to the bedroom in a concealed manner. The cable could be run exposed along the interior ceiling or possibly through the refrigerator vent back atop the roof. We're looking for someone who has solved this problem with a workable solution to run a $7.25 cable this distance without compromising the aesthics of our cabins.
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that got my curiosity going. when I googled it I got links to network switches from Karachi, Pakistan.

Its an HDMI balun. here's an example...

Amazon.com: HDMI over Cat 5 / Cat 6 Extender Balun: Electronics
Steve - that's what I meant. My bad!
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If you figure out a way to do it, please post your solution. I would love to do the same thing to take advantage of my satelite box which is hidden under my dinette. One possible solution is to route a cable up through the refrigerator vent, across the roof and then down through the sewer vent that is just inside the bedroom wall. I read a post where someone routed an outside cable down from this vent, drilled a hole in the PVC pipe then sealed it after the cable was pulled through. I've already removed my refrigerator vent to route a 12 volt power cord for my wifi router and it was no big deal to replace.
I will give this a try next week and post my results.
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Isn't there a way to send HDMI over coax so you don't have to run cable?
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Isn't there a way to send HDMI over coax so you don't have to run cable?
A quick look I didn't find a high resolution way to do that, I did find this combo that should do it.

Amazon.com: eForCity HDMI to 3 RCA Cable, 5 FT: Electronics

Amazon.com: Audiovox Corporation CRF907R Compact RF Modulator: Electronics

I did find a couple of wireless ways to transmit HDMI though.

Amazon.com: Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video Streaming, Laptops, PC, Cablebox, Satellite, Blu-ray, DVD, PS3, Xbox (NPCS549): Electronics

Amazon.com: IOGEAR GW3DHDKIT Wireless 3D Digital Kit with Full HD 1080P and 5.1 Channel Digital Audio: Computers & Accessories
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I wouldn't go up with the cable routing. You can easily go down, under the fridge, under the shower pan and up to the TV on the bedroom side of the shower wall. That shower wall detaches with just a few screws.

But I have to wonder WHY do you need HDMI? With TVs being on the small size In a trailer and with HD quality resolution not mattering much on TVs much under 30 inches, the advantage of having an HD signal is probably negated by the effort and cost required to get it there.
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In our '09 FB the bulkhead the television is mounted on, the wall against the shower, comes off with 5 simple wood screws. It is a very simple removal.

One could then route a cable under the shower, by the water pump under the main wardrobe, under the refer and sofa to the rear of the trailer.

The tv cable is most certainly anchored and will not pull.

Just a little time with a flash light and crawling around will reveal how simply the interior is installed and can be worked around.

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I wouldn't go up with the cable routing. You can easily go down, under the fridge, under the shower pan and up to the TV on the bedroom side of the shower wall. That shower wall detaches with just a few screws.

But I have to wonder WHY do you need HDMI? With TVs being on the small size In a trailer and with HD quality resolution not mattering much on TVs much under 30 inches, the advantage of having an HD signal is probably negated by the effort and cost required to get it there.
We want to run an HDMI cable from our Dish Network receiver under our dinette back to our bedroom TV as this would be the most effective to accomplish this without penetrating the outer skin.
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Please do not misunderstand: I don't mean to prevent you from installing an HD capable cable if that is what you want.

I think you should be able to accomplish this using the existing RG-6 coax i the trailer as long as you don't need HD for that TV. Depending on your receiver, you should have a RF out with a threaded barrel connector. Plug that in the TO TV side of the cable outlet under the dinette and it should sent the RF signal to both TVs.
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Thought about this but that would restrict use of cable TV if we use the existing cable for Dish Network. We are currently staying in an RV resort with excellent cable that my wife watches in the bedroom while I watch Dish in our lounge. By running an HMI cable we can plug into our bedroom flatscreen and have the option for both.
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Simple Solution

Those of you who said route the HDMI Cable under the shower, wardrobe, and refrigerator had the best solution. The coax is definitely anchored in several places.

I removed the heater vent in the bedroom, which is right under the television. I used my drill to cut a notch for the cable in the bottom of the heater vent opening. Then, I routed the cable from there, behind/under the shower, under the wardrobe area (where the water pump is located), under the refrigerator using the opening behind the small cabinet, and finally up through the opening through the refrigerator wall where the main television is mounted. It was a pretty easy job except for having to crawl around on my belly using a coat hanger to reach the cable in tight places. The result is a great HD picture in my bedroom which mirrors the living room television. The HDMI splitter was inexpensive (<$30 from monoprice.com). So far, everything works great.
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I actually paid $34 for the HDMI splitter. Here's a pic.
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