where should i install - Victron_Battery_Protect_ BP-12/24V-100A

[waninae39]

I adding the solar to my AS22Fb

i am adding other power items to control and have a safe power.

I bought the Victron_Battery_Protect_BP-12/24v-100A.
but i do not know where i can install it

this is my design and what it look like now BEFORE i put into the AS.

I am wiring everything i can, plus so that i only have to only plug in
solar 2 wires
li-on battery - 2 wires
TV - 2 wires
power converter - 2 wires

can someone please let me if the design is OK for the Victron_Battery_Protect_BP-12/24v-100A
if not, where should it be connected

cheers

[waninae39]

can someone please comment on the placement for the victron BP battery protect. i sent a note to victron, but all i got was a note to call a local dealer, they seem to have no technical support

[Pete B55]

Originally Posted by waninae39

can someone please comment on the placement for the victron BP battery protect. i sent a note to victron, but all i got was a note to call a local dealer, they seem to have no technical support

Have you gone to the AM Solar website? They have several wiring diagrams for Victron configurations and options.

[SilverHouseDreams]

You can always try the Google image search for inspiration: https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Personally I think this looks more complicated than necessary, the BP100 is likely not really necessary in a TT...unless you are going to actually split the load between "essential" (CO detector, break-away-brakes, and what else?) and "non-essential" (inverter and all else?). I am a big fan of KISS, and my impression is that the BP100 is only "necessary" when using Victron's lithium banks, or others that lack internal BMS to prevent over-discharge. The BattleBorn will not allow you to discharge to the point of damaging the battery bank. The only real value of something like the BP100 is likely to differentiate between "critical" and "non-critical" loads, so you have more confidence in the "critical" pieces always being powered.

Obviously we all have different approaches in how to add these enhancements, will be interested in seeing how it all works when you get it done...and what loads you isolate using the BP100.

[waninae39]

tnx silver house.

i will inline that from the converter path so that it isolates just the converter

[waninae39]

this is the final design and what it looks like before going in

VICTRON suport is useless- after a number of email and calls, all they says is " call a local dealer"

[waninae39]

you need this diagram to do any wiring in a 22FB. this is mostly under the Road side bed

[daleyocum]

Originally Posted by SilverHouseDreams

You can always try the Google image search for inspiration: https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Personally I think this looks more complicated than necessary, the BP100 is likely not really necessary in a TT...unless you are going to actually split the load between "essential" (CO detector, break-away-brakes, and what else?) and "non-essential" (inverter and all else?). I am a big fan of KISS, and my impression is that the BP100 is only "necessary" when using Victron's lithium banks, or others that lack internal BMS to prevent over-discharge. The BattleBorn will not allow you to discharge to the point of damaging the battery bank. The only real value of something like the BP100 is likely to differentiate between "critical" and "non-critical" loads, so you have more confidence in the "critical" pieces always being powered.

Obviously we all have different approaches in how to add these enhancements, will be interested in seeing how it all works when you get it done...and what loads you isolate using the BP100.

I’d call Battleborn, who has great support, and ask them if you need a BP100 for your application. Since that protection circuitry is built into their battery I’m under the impression it’s not necessary. I didn’t use it on my install which is very similar to yours. The BP100 is designed for batteries, like Victron’s, that don’t have that built in.

[SilverHouseDreams]

Originally Posted by waninae39

tnx silver house.

i will inline that from the converter path so that it isolates just the converter

Isolating an inverter is understandable (converts DC to AC power for superfluous accessories), isolating the converter (converts AC to DC to charge your batteries) is likely not what you intend to do.

[waninae39]

i did not install the BP100, as its not needed.

all else is in,

but the new lion Progressive converter does not seem to charge to BB lion batteries.

two hours ago the batt was at 13.08v
now its at 13.06v

here is the screen shot showing the display from both the shunt and the victron monitor

the as22fb is plugged into AC and the converter lights are on and i can hear its hum
i made sure that the lion jumper was in the correct position

is this normal or is something wrong

[Brav]

Wish I had an answer. I will be installing the same system this weekend, sans color control.

My guess is the jumper? Can you hit the button on the panel and force it into higher output? But shouldn’t be too high at 100% SOC at float. But it seems closer to 13.2V float charge for lead acid.

I also bought a BP100 - did you confirm with B.B. that it wasn’t necessary?

[waninae39]

oops (;

i forgot to rotate to battery switch under the bed.

The BB is now fully charged at 14.54v

next step is to install the 240w panel on the roof with the tiltable brackets. that will have to wait for some other weekend.

[SilverHouseDreams]

I didn't see any disconnect switches (e.g. use/store switch) in your diagrams.

Disconnect the battery (store mode) and see if your lights and 12V accessories work, use a voltage meter to check voltage at the converter feeds into the distribution panel. Check the voltage out of the distribution panel (6awg cable to use store switch). Check the reverse polarity fuses at the converter if there isn't voltage out of the panel.

-- edit:
didn't see your final post before replying, glad you figured it out.

Just be sure to reset your SOC settings on the battery monitor once it is truly full, and double check that your SOC calibration settings in the BMV-712 are correct as it was showing 100% SOC even though the voltage didn't correlate to 100% SOC. It may just be that you need to "sync" the SOC to 100% since it was just powered up.

[waninae39]

hello silver house
i did the SOC calibration settings on the BMV-712 while it was in the workshop. i test all connections on the benched with the BB battery and my solar panels. ( though i ran out of time to install the solar panel on the rook=f before we go away)

all is done now ready for the long May 24 federal holiday weekend

here are pics of the final install

airstream installation is very sloppy and left a mess. The cables under the bed were all loose. i cleaned them up and tied them so that would not wiggle around

as well i filled in and used sticky red house tape to seal the hole that the TV wires et.al come into the trailer . taped inside and out
i suggest other test this area also as small bugs and air will come in