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03-31-2010, 04:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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What outlets are available when using battery power?
We have a 2009 25FB International Airstream trailer. I know our dealer told us this, but we can't remember and can't find it written anywhere. Is there an outlet that supplies 110 power when on battery? I know that the TV works on battery. We will be traveling out West where we will mostly be staying in National Parks and other Federal lands without electricity. If there isn't such an outlet then we need to know to bring an inverter for our computer.
Thanks
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03-31-2010, 04:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
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Only if you have an inverter.
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03-31-2010, 04:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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Hi Mello Mike,
We do. It was part of the original equipment.
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03-31-2010, 05:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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If it makes any difference, it is a 600w inverter.
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03-31-2010, 05:09 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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To have a 110 volt outlet operational while not on shore power, it would have to be one powered by an inverter unit installed in the trailer. If there is such an outlet, it should be clearly marked as such. Depending on the wattage of the inverter unit, this could run down your batteries pretty quickly. Some televisions can run on 12 volt with their own built-in inverter.
Brian
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03-31-2010, 05:15 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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The 600 watt inverter will put our 5 amps.
Brian
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03-31-2010, 05:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jagzoo
Hi Mello Mike,
We do. It was part of the original equipment.
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Okay, if you had an inverter installed when you bought the coach then it could be wired in one of two ways:
1. Providing power to a single 110v outlet.
2. Providing power to all 110v outlets.
My Freedom 10 1000w Inverter provides power to all my 110v outlets.
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03-31-2010, 05:20 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
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Santa Rosa Beach
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jagzoo,
You posted this thread twice. I have deleted the other one.
Brian
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03-31-2010, 06:19 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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Thanks everyone,
Obviously, the smart thing to do it to just disconnect shore power and test!! Guess I could have thought of that before. I'll let you know how Airstream wired it.
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03-31-2010, 06:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido
, California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 196
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Only the TV outlet is powered
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03-31-2010, 06:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
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We have a 2006 19 Safari SE. My guess is that your factory inverter will provide to some but not all outlets, but I don't know that for sure. We have a factory 600w inverter alss...and there are separate receptacles for use when running on the inverter. In our unit we have two inverter outlets...one under the dinette table and one near the TV and cable/satellite incoming lines. Where they are located in your model will most likely be completely different.
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03-31-2010, 06:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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Thanks,
That sounds like what I thought the salesperson said. I'll check tomorrow.
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03-31-2010, 07:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Awesome tow vehicle in your avatar pic, jagzoo.
We have a 100 watt inverter that plugs into a cigarette lighter on my truck (try Amazon or Radio Shack). It's the size of half a brick and fairly lightweight. I use it to recharge my computer or camera. I recharge when we're underway or running into town or wherever.
I baby the batteries on my Safari. I have a couple LED lanterns for after dark inside. I'll need everything the batteries have to run the furnace fan if it's getting cold at night. Try to develop an understanding about what it takes to avoid discharging lead-acid batteries much lower than 45% (eg, see this chart). I got 4.5 years off the first pair and am finally replacing them this spring. I can do some email and AIR Forums at night -- but no DVD or hulu action. That's what campfires are for.
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03-31-2010, 08:47 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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THanks CanoeStream,
Boy, don't we wish we could use "GOTSMRT" as a tow vehicle! I even wish we could load her onto our truck bed and take her with us.
Your suggestion to use the inverter off the truck battery to save the trailer batteries when we are dry camping for any length of time is a good idea. I do have a 100 watt inverter like that.
Thanks for the suggestion. Also, thanks for the chart.
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03-31-2010, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
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1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Cleveland
, Tennessee
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Please note that using an inverter on batteries will cut their charge down quickly. I have 2 group 27 marine batteries in my MH. Using a 175 watt inverter for tv gives us about 7 hrs of usable 110 AC power. Even less if using lights, fridge, & other 12 volt items. If thinking about doing this for a whole weekend, find a way to charge them back up.
Ricky
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03-31-2010, 09:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Blaine
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 291
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Our inverter outlets are under the dinette in the back wall and next to the tv.
They are marked at inverter outlets. If you intend to do a lot of dry camping and, at the same time, use some AC stuff you might consider getting a generator like a Honda 2000. It will run you about $800 to $900.
John
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04-01-2010, 07:01 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Wilmot
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 42
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Thanks,
We do also have a Honda 2000 generator that we intend to "top off" the batteries with. So I guess we are set. I did go and test - the outlets under the dinette and by the TV are the active ones.
Thanks to everyone for your help. This is a great site!
Jagzoo
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04-16-2010, 10:47 AM
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2006 28' International CCD
Redmond
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Instead of adding another inverter to your bag of tricks, you might consider a DC/car power supply for your laptop. iGo ( www.igo.com), Tumi ( TUMI > Ultra Slim Universal Power Adaptor Kit > Electronics), etc. offer these. Much more efficient than going from DC-AC-AC-DC.
Alternatively, you can plug you laptop AC power supply into the same outlet as your TV and use your existing inverter.
In either case, be sure to turn off your inverter when not in use to conserve your coach batteries!
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05-31-2010, 03:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,453
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Question for those using the Honda 2000: Do you use it to charge the 12v batteries or connect it to the shore power connector? (It seems like it would be more efficient to charge the 12v batteries directly when boondocking, but I don't know.)
Also, it seems like some of you have both solar panels and generators, which sounds like the ideal setup. For those of us on limited funds, which is more practical, efficient or reliable?
Since our 19-foot Bambi has limited space for solar panels, we are looking closer at a generator. Also, there seems to be some controversy on whether the Honda 2000 will power the air conditioner. Any comments or experiences to share? Since our air conditioner will almost run on the 15 amp circuit on our patio (will run for a few minutes, then blows the circuit breaker on the house), I wonder if the Honda 2000 will work (with nothing else on in the trailer).
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05-31-2010, 04:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1995 30' Excella
Logan
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 90
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You will need 2 Honda 2000 watt generator hooked together to run your airstream Air Conditioner. If you plug your airstream into 110 and try to run the AC, my understanding is that you can ruin your airstream's Air Conditioner.
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