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11-04-2011, 01:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1979 31' Excella 500
Charleston
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What are the symptoms of a bad Univolt?
I have a 1979 Excella and I wanted to know what are the symptoms of a bad univolt? I think my univolt charger has kicked the dust which might of been spurred on by a power surge at a campground.
Any help would be great.
THANKS
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11-04-2011, 01:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB International
Los Angeles
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Based on what I have read on the forum, the first symptom of a bad UniVolt is that it is still installed in your Airstream.
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11-04-2011, 01:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Jokeing aside, usually the first symtoms are no 12 volts after the battery runs down.
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11-04-2011, 01:59 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Or, it cooks the battery.
Andy
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11-04-2011, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
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Measure your 12 V bus voltage with the trailer connected to ground power and disconnected from the tow vehicle. Should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 volts. If it's 12.5 or so the battery probably isn't charging; let some lights run for a while and see if it drops. Conversely, the old boat anchor convertors were notorious for overcharging the batteries; if you are seeing 14-15 volts that's too high. (Note: the current generation microprocessor controlled convertors give the batteries a shot of 14-15 volts now and then, but only briefly; a steady 14+ volts is too high.)
Our 1980 model has a DC voltmeter on the systems monitor panel--maybe yours does too?
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11-04-2011, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Or, it cooks the battery.
Andy
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Hear, hear! That's exactly what a bad converter did to a battery in our rig. We kept on smelling something funny, almost like sewer gas, or so we thought. It was a boiling battery.
Lynn
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11-04-2011, 03:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Sometimes those "cooking the battery" events begin with a bad battery. I had one where one of the battery developed a shorted cell. The converter, an Intellipower I might add, kept pumping 13.8 volts to the batteries trying to bring up the bad one until the battery actually blew up.
After I replaced the batteries, all was well.
The original Univolts are not smart in any way, so they would be even worse.
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11-04-2011, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott J-24
Based on what I have read on the forum, the first symptom of a bad UniVolt is that it is still installed in your Airstream.
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Yes, they are technologically obsolete by virtually all standards of electrical systems available today. Good in their time, but that is time is long gone.
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11-05-2011, 03:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
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The original converter in the B190 was down to about 10 volts output when I replaced it. That was a pretty good sign, too.
The original converter in the trailer wasn't doing well, either - it wasn't able to keep up the voltage even when we had just a few lights on.
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11-05-2011, 04:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
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In these parts we say the only good univolt is a dead univolt Pardner!
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11-12-2011, 10:55 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 28
Coos Bay
, Oregon
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So that I may gain some insight from this thread...Disconnect the battery and check the output voltage to the battery leads? If its 13.0vdc its ok? What about when lights are turned on? I turned on every one I could find and the voltage dipped to 12.0vdc. Can I consider my Univolt to be in decent working condition?
I hope it isn't considered hijacking a thread when your looking for additional insight.
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11-12-2011, 01:20 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by darryl97420
So that I may gain some insight from this thread...Disconnect the battery and check the output voltage to the battery leads? If its 13.0vdc its ok? What about when lights are turned on? I turned on every one I could find and the voltage dipped to 12.0vdc. Can I consider my Univolt to be in decent working condition?
I hope it isn't considered hijacking a thread when your looking for additional insight.
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The output voltage of a "Univolt" cannot be checked unless it's hook up to a battery or a large condenser (capacitor).
The output will measure very low, like 9 to 10 volts, unless that load is attached.
That would give a false indication of a bad Univolt.
Andy
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11-12-2011, 03:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 28
Coos Bay
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 77
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There is where my problem is. I tested the output without a load and it showed 13.0 vdc. Hum...
A new battery is going in later this week. Once installed I will retest the voltage.
Thank you Andy for your help.
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