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Old 08-19-2020, 04:32 PM   #1
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Solar install in 2020 FC 30FB Bunk

Hey Guys,
I am leaning on installing 4 solar panels using factory pre-wire (8AWG). I plan to install 4 Lithium batteries and the AM Solar recommended system. I also plan to install the 12/3000/120-50 hybrid inverter along with the items included in AM Solarís 50 amp CCGX upgrade kit.

My question is where should I put the batteries and inverter. Iíd like to put them under the front bed. Iíve seen videos where the batteries and inverter near the mid section of the trailer but on opposite sides of the hallway.

If I put it all under the front bed, It will fit nicely and Iíll have easy access but Iíll have to run wiring back and forth from the inverter, Smart PHave Selector and the main A/C panel.

Anyone else installed something like this in a 30FB Bunk?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:04 PM   #2
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I ordered the batteries, charge controller, inverter and accessories along with 4 100 watt panels today. Let the fun begin!
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:25 PM   #3
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I’ve done a few 30’ers. Working on one now with a island queen front bed. You are going to need to run (1) cat5 (2) 6-3 SOOW wires and the 4 conductor shunt cable down into the belly pan and up into the panel area. (That’s if you install a CerboGX system. If not you will need (2) cat5 cables in that bundle.

Also make sure your inverter is pre-programmed or buy an MK3 adaptor to program it.
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Old 08-25-2020, 11:23 PM   #4
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On our 30 bunk I put the batteries and inverter in the front compartment under the bed. We use the rest of the under bed storage a lot, but never the front compartment because itís a pain to access, being behind the propane tanks. I replaced the existing inverter control with a MultiControl for which I used the preinstalled Ethernet cable. To have a CCGX there requires fishing a bunch of extra cables, which I didnít want to deal with. I installed a Venus GX in the DC panel (also the BMV there) instead and look at things with my phone.
To get the 6 AWG from the front to the power center, I pulled some (maybe all? I canít remember right now) of the existing cables out that run through the belly - using those to pull a fish tape through. You then use the fish tape to pull all the needed cables back.
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Oh, you also can program the multiplus without the USB-mk3 adapter by downloading/uploading the configuration through the VRM page. I have the Bluetooth adapter for it, but IIRC that isnít even required - just a Venus device.
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Old 08-26-2020, 05:59 AM   #6
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(Thatís if you install a CerboGX system. If not you will need (2) cat5 cables in that bundle.)

I ordered the CCGX, it looks like the CerboGX system does a lot of the same stuff only with remote access. What is the advantage of the CerboGX over the CCGX?
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"To get the 6 AWG from the front to the power center, I pulled some (maybe all? I canít remember right now) of the existing cables out that run through the belly - using those to pull a fish tape through. You then use the fish tape to pull all the needed cables back."

That is a great idea. I will definitely look into that.

I too don't use the front compartment for big stuff. Too hard to get around the propane tanks. I will consider installing my components there too.

I'll be in touch once I get started on the install.

Tony
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Old 09-03-2020, 05:35 AM   #8
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Hey Ronnie,
I read all of your articles on Do it yourself RV. Very informative and helpful.
My components are starting to arrive and Iím planning on installing the bulk of it in the front storage compartment.

I assume Am Solarís SPS should be mounted in the space behind the main electrical panel.

I plan to install the displays near the A/C thermostat on the wall beside the refrigerator as you did in some of your recent installs.

Does this sound like a good plan?

Thank you for helping all of us. I hope to pay it forward in the future.

Tony
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Old 09-27-2020, 05:25 PM   #9
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You are going to need to run (1) cat5 (2) 6-3 SOOW wires and the 4 conductor shunt cable down into the belly pan and up into the panel area. (Thatís if you install a CerboGX system. If not you will need (2) cat5 cables in that bundle.

Also make sure your inverter is pre-programmed or buy an MK3 adaptor to program it.
Iíve acquired most of my parts and accessories. My FC30FB Bunk comes out of warranty repairs tomorrow. Iíll start the install soon. Couple of questions.

I plan to install the batteries, charge controller and inverter in the front storage. I will install the SPS in the area of the AC & DC distribution panel mid-trailer. So Iíll run 2 each 6/3 wires, the cables for the battery monitor & the CCGX. Should I use existing wire for to power the DC panel? Itís under the fridge mid-trailer. I assume that itís ok to pull the inverter out of the front and the converter off of the A/C panel. Does this sound right?

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Old 10-03-2020, 09:39 PM   #10
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Well it turns out that there's a pretty big hole in the floor of the front storage compartment. The 7-pin connector, the battery cables and the DC cables for the inverter run down through the hole and are exposed. The 7-pin and battery cables go forward to the battery compartment area. the DC cables for the inverter go aft and enter the frame on the front side. I was able to partially drop the belly pan and run a fish tape to just under the dinette area. I also cut a small hole in the belly pan to assist with pulling the wire.

I moved the subwoofer and will put the SPS in its place. I drilled a 7/8 inch hole through the floor and ran the first 6/3 cable down and attached it to the fish tape. I also attached a string to pull it back once I ran the cable. I pulled the cable forward. I then drilled a 1 inch hole and fed the 6/3 wire through and then up into the forward storage area. There's enough room in the hole to run the second 6/3 wire along with the 2 commo cables. I'll have to drill another hole in the frame and one in the floor under the dinette seat.

This is wordy so I'll get some pictures soon.

Thanks again for all your help guys.

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Solar install in 2020 FC 30FB Bunk

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Hey Guys,

I am leaning on installing 4 solar panels using factory pre-wire (8AWG). I plan to install 4 Lithium batteries and the AM Solar recommended system. I also plan to install the 12/3000/120-50 hybrid inverter along with the items included in AM Solarís 50 amp CCGX upgrade kit.



My question is where should I put the batteries and inverter. Iíd like to put them under the front bed. Iíve seen videos where the batteries and inverter near the mid section of the trailer but on opposite sides of the hallway.



If I put it all under the front bed, It will fit nicely and Iíll have easy access but Iíll have to run wiring back and forth from the inverter, Smart PHave Selector and the main A/C panel.



Anyone else installed something like this in a 30FB Bunk?



Thanks in advance.

We were stuck between the 30FB Bunk smaller trailer and ended up going with the FC25RB. Concern was size and towing but now know it would be ok and lot camp grounds can handle it. Anyway we have the 25 FT and the Plan is to install under the front bench as mine is RB. This will be closest to the panel so will not have that much cable power loss and not much added a cables. I am concerned with to much heat build up under the bench seat as inverter is next to it. Let us all know how it works out. Good luck.
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Things are progressing quite well with the install. I had to order additional 6/3 and 6/4 cable. It takes about 16" to go from the front storage, under the floor and up into the dinette.

While I'm waiting on the wire to arrive, I've been trying different arrangements of the batteries, inverters, switches, fuses etc. I think I have settled that.

Next thing is to figure out the quickest way to access the area behind the fridge cabinet wall just below the HVAC thermostat. I really like the way GFML has installed the CCGX and BMV712 on that wall. Anyone have a tip on the quickest/best way to do that? I hope I don't have to slide the fridge out.

I'll take some photos once I'm finished with the install.

Thanks for your help,

Tony
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OK Guys, most of the inverter install is done. Just install the battery restrains, some wiring clean up and install the BMV-712 and the CCGX. My first idea turned out not to work because the space behind the wall by the fridge was too shallow to do a flush mount and heads would bump the wall mount box. So Iíve decided to try another idea and Iím asking for help.

Take a look at the pictures below. Iíve installed the batteries and inverter in the front storage compartment. The data cables are routed into the closet on the left. What I would like to do is open the wall inside the closet and run the cables through the wall and into the back of the entertainment cabinet. Thereís a window in between the closet and the wall that I may be able use to help guide the wires. My main question is are their holes in the ribs that I can send the cable through.

Sorry about the two middle photos. I can figure out how to rotate them.

The last photo shows the closet on the right and the entertainment panel in the cabinet on the left. Seems like it shouldnít be too hard.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Looks very nice. Looks very similar to a 27í I did a few weeks ago.
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Thanks,

I studied a lot of your posts.

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