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Old 04-21-2017, 02:21 PM   #1
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internal Surge Protector Options

Is anyone aware of a high quality surge protector that can be installed internally? My control panel/power supply is under the bed and there is quite a bit of room in that area. I am wary of spending $200 to $500 on one that is left hanging on the outside of the trailer.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:24 PM   #2
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Quick note we had an internal surge protector in the closet, worked fine but noisy, about the same noise level as a fridg. Fan.

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Old 04-21-2017, 04:42 PM   #4
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Very happy with my hard wired progressive EMS. Blinky lights, but makes no noise whatsoever.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:14 PM   #5
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internal Surge Protector Options

I have a question for you folks with a Progressive mounted inside the coach. Is it "buzzy" noisy, like a transformer or other power supply buzz or hum noise? I see someone above mentioned fan noise......

The reason I ask is that we had a 50 amp version in the power bay of our diesel pusher, and it hummed quite a bit. Like, if it was inside it would really bug you humming..... I would like an internal 30 amp unit to replace our pedestal one, but I sure don't want a buzz.

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I have the hardwired progressive 30 amp unit and the only noise I've ever heard it make is a "clunk" when it shuts the power off or turns it back on.
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Just installed the internal Progressive industries 30A unit and because I read this site so much and heard one complaint of the lights on the monitor being too bright at night, I placed mine inside the medicine cabinet.
By the way, it's quiet.
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I put mine in the bathroom and just use a little flip card to cover it at night. I also put the 4655 remote wizard next to it.
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Thanks for the info everyone! I will check it out.
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Progressive internal hardwired, no heat... flawless for 2 years of constant use.
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Old 04-22-2017, 06:13 AM   #11
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I have a 30a surge protector. It does hum a little. It's mounted in the clothes closet.

I bought it to protect the air conditioner, and that's the only circuit it protects. I lost an air conditioner to low voltage in a small campground.

The hum doesn't bother me, because it only runs when I'm also using the air conditioner.

I would help if you mount it near the foot of the bed. If it's right under the head of the bed it might bother you.
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I mounted internal also, yes it hums a bit. But by mounting it on rubber washers the hum was noticeably reduced.
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I thought I read on the forums somewhere that the internal does not allow for a generator connection? So you have to set it to bypass if you are on generator as compared to shore power. Not sure, mine is outside.
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I don't have an answer, I've got a hard wired unit for several years now and just bought a Honda EU3000i and you posed an interesting question.

But a quick search found this short video from Mike Sokol and his channel is The No Shock Zone, VERY informative.



Worth watching and a good question.
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I thought I read on the forums somewhere that the internal does not allow for a generator connection? So you have to set it to bypass if you are on generator as compared to shore power. Not sure, mine is outside.
You need a neutral to ground bond somewhere. If your generator doesn't have one, you can rig one up with a couple bucks worth of fittings from the hardware store.
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I don't have an answer, I've got a hard wired unit for several years now and just bought a Honda EU3000i and you posed an interesting question.

But a quick search found this short video from Mike Sokol and his channel is The No Shock Zone, VERY informative.



Worth watching and a good question.
Thanks good info
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More details from Mike on this neutral bonding topic http://noshockzone.org/generator-gro...utral-bonding/
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I second the recommendation of the Progressive Dynamics internal surge protector. Ours has the remote monitor and we love it. I mounted the surge protector in the rear of the trailer under the twin bed on the side the power cord comes in and the remote monitor in the front living area above my Trimetic meter.

The remote uses a telephone cord so you can locate it at the other end of the trailer if you wish, only make sure the cord is wired the way shown in the manual. Phone cords may have 2 or 4 wires and some have the outer wires reversed. I bought one at Home Depot that I had to rewire to match what was in the manual to get it to work.

We have noticed no noise from the surge protector and our remote has a button on it to bypass the surge protector which you can use if you are using a generator.

In 2 years mine has tripped twice for faulty grounding and 4 times for low voltage which helps protect my AC compressor and I recommend it highly.
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we have a progressive 50amp internal. I have noticed no hum so far. These unit do use a standard 3pole contactor. I have seen contractors develop a buzzy coil. If this happens you would have to replace the contactor. fairly easy to do if you have small monkey fingers.;-)
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You need to protect all circuits AC or D.C. If you have a big surge or a loose ground or neutral connection you could fry anything that is online. That type of fault can occur anywhere up stream on the grid. I did just that. It makes the price of a surge protector cheap
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