View Poll Results: if I'm going to be parked for a year and plugged in do I need a battery
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yes you can go without battery
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yes you can sidestep univolt
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no you must have both
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04-14-2014, 12:42 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1976 31' Sovereign
ompah
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
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If I dont need a battery power can dispense with univolt? can I dispense
I'm making a 4 hour drive with new brakes . Heard lots of stories about batteries being burned for various reasons . Do I really need a batery for towing or once I'm plugged in in new location?
Right now trying to decide between the iota 55 and progressive dynamic 9260. Any suggestions appreciated.Peter
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04-14-2014, 12:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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You need a battery when you are towing so the breakaway switch will have power to turn on the brakes in case the trailer becomes seperated from the tow vehicle.
Most battery charger/converters are much happier when there is the load of a battery on them and the power out is much cleaner. It would be good to check with the maker of whatever converter you select about running it with out a battery.
You need some kind of 12 volt source because that is the voltage most of the trailer operates on
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04-14-2014, 01:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,322
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Unless a PO has done some serious rewiring, then everything except the 110 V outlets (and airconditioner) are powered by 12V (ie., refrigerator controls if equipped, lights, fans, sound systems, thermostats, tank monitors, furnace, etc.) The old univolt needs to have a battery in the system, or it won't last long. This may not be true of some modern converters. But, as mentioned above, you need a 12V battery on board to power your brakes in the event of a break-away situation.
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04-14-2014, 01:09 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Yes, you need a battery for towing. Without it, your breakaway switch will not activate your trailer brakes; once the umbilical comes loose, you'd have nothing. Disabling required safety equipment by towing with no battery is not a good idea.
I'll decline to answer the question of whether you need a battery if you'll be plugged in for a year. Others will be better able to answer that.
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04-14-2014, 01:57 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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I agree with Belegedhel, you will most likely need the battery. You can mount a small battery just for the brakes, however the bulk of the lights and such in your trailer are 12 volt powered. I have seen some that were converted completely to 120v but they are the exception rather than the rule and still require a battery for the emergency braking system. No real opinion on which inverter, I like the specs on the Progressive a bit better than the ones on the Iota but that is me.
Aaron
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04-14-2014, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 23' Safari
Niagara on the Lake
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 984
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I'll say yes to removing the univolt/charger, but no to removing the battery totally.
Our Trillium doesn't have a coach battery, and no electric brakes. All interior lights etc run on 120v, makes it a poor choice for boondocking but it doesn't have a water pump either
My car trailer has a small battery mounted on the tongue to activate the brakes in case of a breakaway, its smaller than the battery in my lawn tractor and charges off of the tow vehicle only, no converter.
If you don't need 12v interior power you don't need a converter, but since you have electric brakes you must have a battery.
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04-14-2014, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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You need both, but not at the same time
I'll go with the majority. You need both, although perhaps not at the same time. You need a battery for towing to operate the brakes if the trailer should separate from the tow vehicle. You don't need a converter while towing. You need a converter while parked as others have said. I just yesterday finished the installation of a pd9260 in my 2001 Safari 25. The manual says it is designed for use with a battery but a battery is not required as the output power is regulated and filtered and can be used with sensitive electronics without a battery or other filtering.
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04-14-2014, 03:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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Yes, you really need a battery in the trailer to tow legally in many states.
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