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Old 04-19-2017, 12:53 PM   #1
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Does anyone have experience using UPS batteries?

Yes, I know that deep cycle batteries are the correct ones to use, but I have been given two large (about 125-130 AmpHrs ea & 98lbs ea!) UPS batteries. Being that they have less lead thickness in the mats, how dramatically will their life spans be altered (shortened)? They are rated for ten years in a UPS environment and are five yrs old. Since their 12v, I'll parallel them. The other question is how about the converter? I have no information on it. How harsh might that be on the batteries? Their is nothing in the manuals for our 2007 Bambi. The monitor for the trailer is a standard Airstream Micro Pulse Systems Monitor.
The PO had also installed a small (40watt) solar panel and Go Power charge controller, so that will keep a nice trickle on the batteries
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:30 PM   #2
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I never used it for the trailer, but I did CARRY it in the trailer whenever the itinerary included one or more boondocking nights. I used a 100ah AGM battery designed for UPS applications to run my CPAP via an inverter... it was WAY oversized, I used the spec sheet for the CPAP rather than plugging it into a kill-a-watt to see what it REALLY draws at my settings. It ran great, no problems and survived the travel in the Airstream for years.
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:44 PM   #3
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I believe those are AGM batteries.
Since they were given to you, hook them up and try them out. Just don't get rid the OEM Interstate until they've proven themselves.
I'm not so sure you can parallel AGM with flooded, I think there is a difference in how much voltage they like to be charged with. A battery select switch might be in order if you just want to add them to an existing battery.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:42 PM   #4
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I have used them and still do. Works for me. I currently have two100 AH batteries. I quite frankly do not understand the allegiance to battery brands. I don't really know the exact makeup of different brands but the basic concept is all the same.

Here is a link of what manufacture makes what battery brand.
http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/batbrand.htm


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Old 04-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #5
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I've used UPS style sealed lead acid batteries for years in various applications.

Ive used this one

Universal Power Group 45978 Sealed Lead Acid Battery https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044Z8DJW..._wYa-ybCY1J0J5

For a semi portable 12v / 1000 watt inverter setup.

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Amazingly I built that back in 2013, still going strong. Always stored on a trickle charger.

Treated correctly (and if they were treated correctly) you will get good service from them. I've found through experience that they seem more susceptible to complete failure if fully discharged. Most batteries are but especially these. They just don't come back to life if over discharged.

Don't mix batteries as others said. I think you meant you were going to parallel these two batteries replacing the originals.
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:40 PM   #6
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Should be OK

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Yes, I know that deep cycle batteries are the correct ones to use, but I have been given two large (about 125-130 AmpHrs ea & 98lbs ea!) UPS batteries. Being that they have less lead thickness in the mats, how dramatically will their life spans be altered (shortened)?
I'm certain they're deep cycle: A. 125-130 Ah & 98 lb would indicate deep cycle. 98 lbs for 130 Ah is a lot. That indicates a LOT of lead. The main difference between an automotive starting battery is the amount of lead used. Automotive starting batteries are constructed of lead sponge which is lighter and presents more surface area for a faster chemical reaction. If you need to run your starter for more than 90 seconds, you're abusing the whole starter system. Providing maybe five or ten amps to a load for hours requires more lead. B. Why would anybody put anything else in a UPS? A UPS doesn't need to supply the huge, short-duration starting pulse an automotive starter requires but it does need to supply current for a long time.
Granted, a UPS should maintain the batteries on a float voltage almost all their lifetimes, vs. RV usage which depletes their charge regularly. All batteries used in RVs face the same.
There should be no lead in the mats, only in the anode and cathode.


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They are rated for ten years in a UPS environment and are five yrs old.
Good luck! We use tons of UPSes at work. I've never seen one last ten years. A little more than five years is all I expect. Maybe seven years.

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Since their 12v, I'll parallel them. The other question is how about the converter? I have no information on it. How harsh might that be on the batteries? Their is nothing in the manuals for our 2007 Bambi. The monitor for the trailer is a standard Airstream Micro Pulse Systems Monitor.
The PO had also installed a small (40watt) solar panel and Go Power charge controller, so that will keep a nice trickle on the batteries
Thanks,
-Marc
Sounds to me like you're on the right track. If you Glamp much and use the converter much, replace it with a proper 3- or 4-stage device. If you're boondocking, keep the batteries topped off with a small 3-stage charger while at home.
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Old 04-20-2017, 01:33 PM   #7
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Thanks all

Thanks everyone. I'm going to take everyone's advice and plug 'em in.
Happy trails to you all,
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Another display of total ignorance. What the heck are UPS batteries and why would I want to use them vs other brands?
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:19 PM   #9
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Another display of total ignorance. What the heck are UPS batteries and why would I want to use them vs other brands?

UPS = Uninterrupted Power Supply

It's not so much a battery brand but a type of battery used within Uninterrupted Power Supplies. Batteries used in UPS's are typically deep cycle as they need to store as much power as possible and don't need to supply massive cranking amps. UPS's come in various sizes from small ones with 5 AH batteries to huge server room ones with multiple 100 AH batteries.

I think that's what you were asking.
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