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03-11-2020, 08:12 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Victron 100/50 controller did not wake up
So I got my 600W solar system all wired, flipped the switch - nothing! 
It was pretty late, the sun had almost set. Could it be that the system just didn't generate enough voltage to kick-start the controller? The Bluetooth app showed 0V. On the controller the "Bulk charge" was blinking blue every few seconds.
I'll be at work tomorrow so there will no good time to observe it during the day. Ugh.
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03-11-2020, 08:49 PM
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Rivet Master  
2017 22' Sport
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
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"it was pretty late, the sun had almost set."
not enough light, report again mid day with no clouds
this is VERY common with solar
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03-12-2020, 03:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
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Join Date: Dec 2019
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Still nothing, plenty of sun
Does the storage mode matter?
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03-12-2020, 03:46 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
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Yes it should not be in storage mode.
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03-12-2020, 04:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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Didn't make a difference, storage mode or not
*sigh*, guess i'll start debugging. I'll start with the panels and see if I'm getting voltage. Work my way down to the controller. Ugh.
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03-12-2020, 04:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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All 3 arrays putting out 38v into the rooftop Zamp combiner
Noticed one thing: the victron controller blinks blue regardless of the setting of my Blue Sea switch! (On or off)
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03-12-2020, 04:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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Confirmed that 38v is reaching the Blue Sea switch from the roof
Confirmed that Blue Sea puts out 38v
Confirmed that polarity is as expected: Yellow PV is positive, Green is negative
Stumped!
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03-12-2020, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Did you connect to the batteries before flipping the solar switch on? The solar controller needs to read the battery voltage first before the solar is activated the first time to set 12V. A screen shot of the status screen on your phone would help. A screen shot of the settings/battery screen would also help. You can disable/enable the charger from the battery screen. The Victron 100/50 should charge no matter the position of your store/use switch.
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 05:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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Noticed one thing: the victron controller blinks blue regardless of the setting of my Blue Sea switch! (On or off)
That's because its connect to the batteries.
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 05:56 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Yes, I connected the entire system from the bottom up - battery to controller, then the panels
Dead as a doorknob
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03-12-2020, 05:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Battery side is working, no voltage coming from solar panels. There's got to be a problem between the switch with 38V and the solar controller input connection.
State: off - is it dark outside? Still should be seeing voltage from the solar panels on the status screen I believe.
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 06:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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03-12-2020, 06:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
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Charger is enabled. Just missing voltage from panels???
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 06:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Sun went down, I'm done for the day. Need a couple drinks after this 
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03-12-2020, 06:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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Can you check the voltage at the Victron solar controller inputs? By probing into the inputs while leaving everything connected?
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 06:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
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I would focus on the solar controller input connections. If there's voltage there, it could be a bad solar controller.
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2018 Globetrotter 27Q, 36 nights 5,235 miles, 600W Solar - Produced 50 kWh, PD4655L, 6V Batteries, Champion DualFuel, ProPride, 16" tires, 2019 F250 PSD
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles, 400W Solar - Produced 200 kWh in 216 days
2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
(Daytona 2/20)
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03-12-2020, 10:05 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
Paradise
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2017
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If you bought the controller from Amazon, message seller, get another.
Or, you might have a wire strand crossing paths at the controller.
If that checks out, I would definitely be worried about charge controller.
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03-12-2020, 10:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 22' Sport
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
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my first victron solar controller was bad. it was swapped. now working fine for 2 + years
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03-13-2020, 05:08 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMiles
I would focus on the solar controller input connections. If there's voltage there, it could be a bad solar controller.
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Will double check by probing the inputs.
Really hope it's not the controller, I have a big trip planned and there's little time to find another.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerman
If you bought the controller from Amazon, message seller, get another.
Or, you might have a wire strand crossing paths at the controller.
If that checks out, I would definitely be worried about charge controller.
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The crossed strands is a possibility. Some of my wires are 6awg, a little too fat for the controller.
Quote:
Originally Posted by waninae39
my first victron solar controller was bad. it was swapped. now working fine for 2 + years
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Amazon has plenty of 3rd party vendors but I'm not seeing any with overnight shipping. I need one NOW! Closest dealer is three hours away (6hr round trip.)
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03-13-2020, 05:45 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Dripping Springs
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 217
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It's still pitch dark outside but I went to the trailer and checked for crossed wire strands - it's totally ok.
I ended up finding another on Amazon when searching only for "Prime" items (I don't even have Prime), paid $9 for shipping and it's supposed to arrive today.
Fingers crossed!
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