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04-12-2016, 02:59 PM
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#301
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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I noticed Tsunami's AS is a 2016 with the A/C hump. Mine doesn't have that hump. Looking at the OP photos the panels are almost level using the feet that come with the panels.
Kelvin
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2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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04-12-2016, 06:13 PM
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#302
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
I noticed Tsunami's AS is a 2016 with the A/C hump. Mine doesn't have that hump. Looking at the OP photos the panels are almost level using the feet that come with the panels.
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Optical illusion!! I have always used extended length feet for Airstream installation. They are placed on the outside rails to level the panels, which is not possible using AM SOlars regular 3-hole rocker foot mounts.
I had the super tall feet made for the new, ducted air raised roof of the 2015+ model years.
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04-19-2016, 12:35 PM
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#303
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Lew, I do recall you had big feet.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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04-19-2016, 04:05 PM
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#304
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Lew, I do recall you had big feet.
Gene
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Yep. Even bigger ones now with the higher roof curve for the ducted A/C
Lew Farber
RVIA/RVDA Nationally Certified Master Tech
ABYC Certified Master Marine Electrician
Master Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
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04-24-2016, 02:12 PM
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#305
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Wondering???
Installed the IPN Pro Remote today, final piece of the system. Agonized over location. So the question is: when I plugged the RJ-11 cable in the IPN Pro it lit up and displayed Battery 13.2V Volt/AMP +773.3A when it finally settled out. Then I connected the 18/2 twisted pair and the Volt/AMP went to +0.0A. Would this indicate a problem. The AS is indoors under florescent lighting.
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04-24-2016, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Photo of IPN Pro after plugging in RJ-11.
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04-24-2016, 02:50 PM
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#307
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 745
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If you connected the IPN remote without connecting the twisted pair from the current shunt, the fact that it displayed 773A doesn't surprise me, since the IPN remote is looking for a very small voltage drop across the shunt and you left the IPN remote input unterminated. After connecting the shunt, the IPN remote should indicate the current drain from the battery when you start turning on various loads in your trailer.
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2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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04-24-2016, 02:55 PM
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#308
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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I'm heading out to the barn to disconnect shore power and start turing on fans, lights, and inverter. More to follow. Thanks
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04-24-2016, 03:53 PM
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#309
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsunami
I'm heading out to the barn to disconnect shore power and start turing on fans, lights, and inverter. More to follow. Thanks
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You need a re-boot. Remove the battery power from the Blue Sky system (should be the black marine circuit breaker with the yellow stalk). This will re-set the iPN-PRO remote as well and all should be good to go.
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04-24-2016, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Rebooted system. See photo
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04-24-2016, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Disconnected shore power. Turned on all lights, both fantastic vent fans, bath and shower exhaust fans (no refrig or furnace turned on) and watched the volt/amp numbers dropped to about -8.5.
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04-24-2016, 06:00 PM
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#312
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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Only things left to do is a very little wiring cleanup and to reinstall the plywood seating surface and cushions. Ready to get me some free power!!!
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04-24-2016, 06:06 PM
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#313
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsunami
only things left to do is a very little wiring cleanup and to reinstall the plywood seating surface and cushions. Ready to get me some free power!!! Attachment 261317Attachment 261318
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LOOKING GOOD!!!:d
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04-25-2016, 03:14 AM
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#314
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Yes, solar power is free but only after the really stiff initiation fee....
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2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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04-26-2016, 03:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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I'm trying to pull the trigger on a 200w roof system and I have two choices for monitor and controllers:
1. Bogart Trimetric 2030 monitor panel pair with the Bogart PWM 30amp SC 2030 solar charger. Cost for this system is $343 which includes the 500amp shunt and 4 wire cable harness and temperature sensor. I like the way the solar controller is paired with Trimetric 2030. There are profiles set up that you can choose for each brand of batteries of which Lifeline is included. One of the charging parameters is to allow the batteries to be charge over 7% which according to what I've read is needed to fully charge AGM lead acid batteries.
2. Blue Sky 2512i HV MPPT solar controller paired with a Blue Sky IPN Pro Remote. The cost of this set up is about $531. If I have to get the surface mounting box for the controller then that is another $40.
Will I really benefit from an MPPT system with only 200w on the roof? I can't see adding more panels to the roof int he future as my roof real estate is limited. I do plan to set up a quick connect to the roof system so I can add 200w of portable panels.
Kelvin
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04-26-2016, 04:08 PM
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#316
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Pleasanton
, California
Join Date: Jan 2015
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The MPPT controller will be more efficient than a PWM controller and the BlueSky battery monitor integrates well with the charger. I'd pay the difference.
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2015 30' Classic, "Chez Nu"
2014 RAM 2500 w/Cummins Diesel
ProPride Hitch, 400 W Solar
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04-26-2016, 05:19 PM
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#317
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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The Blue Sky is a better system. Plus, Bogart's reasoning for not offering an MPPT controller seems spurious at best. He's beginning to sound a lot like 'Angry Bob' 😄
Lew Farber
RVIA/RVDA Nationally Certified Master Tech
ABYC Certified Master Marine Electrician
Master Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
AM Solar Certified Installation Center*AMS Lithium Batteries
Lifeline AGM Batteries**Magnum Inverters***Victron Energy Components
541-490-6357
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
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04-27-2016, 08:08 AM
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#318
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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You will be happier with that Blue Sky controller.
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04-28-2016, 01:50 AM
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#319
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Our first system was in the Classic and has the TriStar MPPT 60 because of the 800 watts of initial solar panels. We are adding one and perhaps two more 100 watt panels in May. Two additional panels would will bring the TriStar closer to it's rated capacity of 800 watt at 12Vdc (since solar panels really create about 75% of the lable plate power, the ten 100 watt panels could, in theory, create about 750 watts on a bright day).
Making changes to the parameters is a chore as we have to remove the cabinet it hides in to access a data port to make changes to the firmware. When we changed from the four Lifeline 6ct batteries to one lithium iron phosphate battery with the same 12Vdc 600 amp-hour capacity we had to change several of the parameters in the firmware. We have been pleased with it's performance to date.
The 23D has it's roof completely full with five 100 watt solar panels. We selected the BlueSky 3024iL controller and it does an excellent job as well and is easier to program than the TriStar. In my opinion, the BlueSky IPN-Pro Remote provides more user friendly capabilities than the TriStar Meter 2 remote provides.
YMMV
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04-28-2016, 06:41 AM
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#320
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
, Kentucky
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 898
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As stated in the Young Frankenstein movie, "It is alive!!!". After spending about 5 minutes programming, via the IPN-Pro, and validating inputs, I pulled my AS out of the barn, on this very cloudy day and the system sprang to life. More to follow.
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