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Old 04-21-2007, 09:38 PM   #1
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Does anyone know about the Onan JuiceBox assembly contains their 4K Microquiet unit

http://www.cumminsonan.com/rv/products/hitch

I believe the whole thing weighs 348lbs. Can I mount it to the back of the Airstream 31 08 Classic? There is a cool video there illustrating the disconnect.
I have an SUV and I dont know how I would transfer 2 Hondas. They both need a gas tank though. Maybe strap it to the brake box on the A frame? If the Hondas where do you store them with a closed SUV?

The JuiceBox allows you to stop and immediately turn her on with a fab control. Question can you suspend 350 lbs on a hitch off the back end of the Airstream?
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It has been asked many times on this forum if this or that can be mounted of the back of an Airstream.
The answer from a mere bike rack to a 350 lb generator is absolutely no way.


Is it crazy that an Airstream is so delicate that it can't take a bike rack on its rear, yes!



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Old 04-21-2007, 10:27 PM   #3
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Question WoW!

Ok back to the drawing board? We live in Florida looking at a 31 08 Classic with 2 ACs. Own an SUV,if not this Onan where do I put the Hondas and gas tank?
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Try the search feature. There are some recent posts by a member that mounted 2 hondas on the front of his trailer. Includes pics.

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Ok back to the drawing board? We live in Florida looking at a 31 08 Classic with 2 ACs. Own an SUV,if not this Onan where do I put the Hondas and gas tank?
Here is a thread on a Onan I putting on cart, the Onan was given to me and I had all the other parts on hand. If I did not have a free unit I would go with the Honda setup, not mounted on the trailer. The unit I have comes in at 213 Lbs. without tank and cover.

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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...ect-31782.html

Here is the link to the Honda infromation.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f198...mbi-13142.html

Good Luck and let us know what you do.

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Have you investigated getting a hitch receiver mounted on the front of your SUV and attaching the Juice Box on the SUV instead of the trailer?
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Hitch on SUV

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On the front? Juicebox dimensions from spec sheet. 48"w x 25"w x 27"h. Is that possible?
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A hitch receiver can be mounted on the front of the SUV. No problem. It's done all the time. Several Forum members have done it. The weight of the Juice Box (348#) is well below the receiver's capacity. Length (48") and width (25") seem OK. The 27" height might interfere with the driver's vision, but that would have to be checked out by measuring beforehand to see if it is practical. Talk to the dealer to see what they say. I'm sure that they have had experience with every possible way to mount the Juice Box.
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On the front? Juicebox dimensions from spec sheet. 48"w x 25"w x 27"h. Is that possible?
I would have to say that is correct. The cover I put over the unit I have is 27 X 27 and I didn't cover the tank or controls. The cover on the JB is covering the tank and the distribution panel with sound proofing added in.

Onan Generators are heavy and designed for heavy use. The Honda Eu3000 is 134 lbs dry putting out 3KW the Onan puts out 4 KW. Hondaís are nice.

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Ok back to the drawing board? We live in Florida looking at a 31 08 Classic with 2 ACs. Own an SUV,if not this Onan where do I put the Hondas and gas tank?
Who needs a gas tank? Convert the Hondas (or Yamahas) to propane and run from the 2 tanks that the Airstream already has!
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I'd also look at engine cooling with that large of a container mounted on front. Just my 2 cents, FWIW.
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found this front hitch

http://www.etrailer.com/productdetai...rfrom=2005&h=e

I guess if it doesnt work I could mount some antlers and animal hides!

If I go this route I think it would be better to purchase the Onan LP/Propane version and run off the twin 40s on the trailer?

Propane version gives a .5Kw less power and consumes more fuel but the idea of transporting gasoline bothers me. We plan on going across country for 6 weeks from Ft. Lauderdale to Vancouver Island.
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found this front hitch

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I guess if it doesnt work I could mount some antlers and animal hides!

If I go this route I think it would be better to purchase the Onan LP/Propane version and run off the twin 40s on the trailer?

Propane version gives a .5Kw less power and consumes more fuel but the idea of transporting gasoline bothers me. We plan on going across country for 6 weeks from Ft. Lauderdale to Vancouver Island.
I will use marine cas cans and fittings. The ONAN has a fuel pump, you can slip a hose into the fuel tank of your TV (if it is gas) and pump from the tank.

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Be cautious of putting the "juice" on the front of your SUV. The front end was not designed to cary that much weight on the front axle and steering gear. The added weight will change the caster and camber and cause excessive tire wear. Also the tires in a tight turn will roll to far onto the outer tread edges and will chew off the tread. Next you will restrict air flow to the radiator and trans cooler causing high engine tempertures, especially if climbing any mountains. Now the front brakes are carrying more weight and stopping power will be compromised and brake pad life will be shorten. This modification can only lead to a lot of problems to your SUV. I'd think twice, but I would definately check with the SUV manufactor or Dealer.. I speak from experience, 41 years in the car and truck business. We were always ask to fix the the problems and would hate to tell you cost of repairs. CAUTION, Pinehurst
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Thank You Big Time

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Wow is all i can say. I think I will stick with the Tri-fuel conversion Yamahas.
The unit we are closing in on is a Classic 31 08 with a 15Kbtu AC also it has a master AC of 13.5Kbtu. We live in So Fl. Does anybody have an opinion about either coupling 2 x EF2400iS or relying on 1 EF30iSEB. Since they will run on the 40gl tanks they probably can be transported in the back of the burb.
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Wow is all i can say. I think I will stick with the Tri-fuel conversion Yamahas.
The unit we are closing in on is a Classic 31 08 with a 15Kbtu AC also it has a master AC of 13.5Kbtu. We live in So Fl. Does anybody have an opinion about either coupling 2 x EF2400iS or relying on 1 EF30iSEB. Since they will run on the 40gl tanks they probably can be transported in the back of the burb.
I have the Yamaha EF3000iSEB and roll it up a set of aluminum plated ramps into the back of my Chevy 2500hd. It has worked fine. If I were you, i'd buy two of the Honda 2000 units with the parallel kit. Each Honda is light and can fit into two small Rubbermaid containers to keep gas smell down inside the vehicle.
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Yamaha vs Honda

i emailed tech at US Carburetion about whether I would need 2 EF2400iS or 1 EF30iSEB for the 31 Classic with 2 ACs 13.5Kbtu and 15Kbtu. The 30 are $2300 @ and the 2400s are $1550 @. Plus connecting cable for for the 2400 is over $200. The hondas are cheaper and lighter but only gas fueled.
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