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Old 12-20-2014, 01:37 PM   #1
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Looking at the Honda EU3000is ??

I am looking to upgrade my current 2500w Honda generator and go for the EU3000is. What is the difference between the Handi model and the EU3000 besides the electric start. If there is no other substantial difference I may opt for the lighter weight pull start model. My current contractor generator is pull start and has never given me a problem so I'm not sure the extra pounds for the electric start will be worth it.

Appreciate any imput from you generator guru's out there.

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Old 12-20-2014, 02:40 PM   #2
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Compared to the EU 3000i the EU3000is has more wattage available, is more quiet, has a larger fuel tank for longer run time before refilling and in general is an excellent generator.
It is a bit of a fatso though. What I really love about ours is the lack of noise. It has a quiet mellow tone that is delightful to not hear...
That is all I have to say!
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:36 PM   #3
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I think the weight is the major problem with the 3000is. Is it the electric start system what makes it so appreciably heavier?

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Old 12-22-2014, 12:42 PM   #4
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You will love the EU3000is.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:45 PM   #5
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The electric start is very nice, an the quieter operation, and bigger tank. The rope start on my 3000 broke and is very difficult to repair, but the electric start still works fine. You also can get a remote start for it, but I don't believe that is a Honda option, only aftermarket.
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Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhh! Don't tell, the EU3000iS is veeeery quiet!

And, they are both monsters compared to the EU2000 and smaller. We just leave ours in the back of the truck for the season and appreciate that we can easily start up the AC without kicking in another EU2000 ... but, either the 3000 Handi or the 3000 iS is dragable at best - just too heavy for easy movement. However,add the wheel kit to the iS and it makes all the difference. The 3000iS seems to be much more efficient at fuel consumption in eco mode that the two parallel EU2000s were ...AND the 300iS has a much larger tank than the Handi.. The electric start wasn't a selling point when we purchased, but now I would not want to go back.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:04 PM   #7
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There are other considerations, and having had a Honda EU3000iS I can say it performed well.

My choice more recently was to obtain a 4000w from Northern Tool, Powerhorse Portable Generator with Electric Start — 4000 Surge Watts, 3100 Rated Watts, Model# DFD4000
at a price of about $500.00. This sits in the bed of my TV and is reasonably quiet when covered over with a heavy pad, allowing good ventilation for intake and exhaust. It is in fact nearly as quiet as the Honda, yet a bit less convenient.

Others to consider might be the Yamaha EF3000iS (EF30iS) Inverter Generator which has a remote start accessory.
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #8
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Kelvin, you asked about the weight difference. I was reading up yesterday and it seems to be a combination of a slightly larger engine plus the electric start components along with the larger fuel capacity and perhaps different ( = heavier) housing. The handi seems to use some composit materials to lighten things up.

Still mulling this about. Haven't taken the plunge yet
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I am looking to upgrade my current 2500w Honda generator and go for the EU3000is. What is the difference between the Handi model and the EU3000 besides the electric start. If there is no other substantial difference I may opt for the lighter weight pull start model. My current contractor generator is pull start and has never given me a problem so I'm not sure the extra pounds for the electric start will be worth it.

Appreciate any imput from you generator guru's out there.

Thanks all and Merry Christmas
We purchased the Honda 3000 pull start just a few months ago. One pull and the unit begins without fail; thus far anyway. I wouldn't get an auto start based solely on this issue. Weight is always a concern as I must lift everything into the back of my Ford 250 with it's 20 inch wheels. Not bad at all I discovered. Hope this helps in some degree.
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:49 PM   #10
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Thanks Adam. Great minds think alike. I'm on the same page. Is there any issue with the plug on our AS's ??? Do you need an adapter to get it plugged in ??
We camped last summer in the Rhinebeck area while we visited the Roosevelt's in Hyde Pk. Had a very nice few days there.
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Yes, you need an adaptor plug. When we bought our unit the adapters were hanging conveniently near by. I read on the forum that the electric start model has more wattage and fuel capacity. I doubt such would interest us but more is generally better than less. I suppose if you expect to run the A/C a lot the higher wattage might be worth while?? Cheers.

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I too am concerned about the fuel capacity. I was browsing info on them and the EU2000 model seems to have an internal fuel pump as some of the fuel in the tank is lower than the carb. It seems that having the fuel pump will create a suction in the airtight fuel tank. A modification can be done to the tank cap to allow a hose to be inserted into an aux. container. Fuel is sucked up and will extend the run time. I'm trying to look further into this as an option for those occasions where run time might be important. I don't know if the 3000w models are similar enough to do this. Anyhow, still working on this thought. I don't know if the wattage matters in the few occasions where I'd be looking at running the AC. Likely mostly at night where other wattage draw would be minimum. I did my active duty '69-'72 in the Army then went on to retire from the NJ Air. Nat. Guard at McGuire AFB. Thoroughly enjoying retirement. Congratulations on your retirement.

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Hi, from what I have seen the only advantage of the Handi is that it is lighter in weight. [ handle and wheels ] To me though, the Handi is a stripped down model which costs more. That, I don't understand; Pay more for less.
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Old 12-24-2014, 10:56 AM   #15
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The Yamaha 3000is may be something to consider. Cheaper than a Handi but still heavy at 150lbs dry. Noise specs similar to Honda.

Yamaha 2400is is supposed to handle 13.5kBTU AC but I'm not sure there is an extended tank available as the Honda.

Champion 3100 (Handi like) is the cheapest and from what I've read is good bang for you buck.
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I think the 3000 handi is a lot noisier than the othe Honda 3000, according to Honda specs. It's noisier than a 2000 ?
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There's an interesting U-Tube video on an easy modification to the standard fuel tank cap to give extended run time. Has anyone tried something along those lines ???
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The handi output is less than the EU3000is. You do Yamaha fans always infiltrate Honda threads? I give them credit for being in 2nd place.
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There's an interesting U-Tube video on an easy modification to the standard fuel tank cap to give extended run time. Has anyone tried something along those lines ???
Yes, it is an easy adaptation of the stock fuel cap. Or, you can buy (as I did) a metal cap that is already drilled and tapped for an NPT fitting. The fuel pump in the 2000 will pull fuel from a vented container below or level with the generator. We used an outboard motor fuel tank.
I was told that the same caps work on the 3000 Handi as well, but frankly, we never had to test the run time as we traded in one of the EU2000i pair and went for the 3000is due to less noise... the fuel capacity for the 3000is has proven more than adequate for our needs.
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I see someone posted a link to Wise Sales - can't say I'd ever do business with them....I ordered a Honda generator and the extended run gas tank Nov 17 - showed in-stock, expected ship 2-3 days. Order went through, got my confirmation...never heard from them again. Called twice. Each time said it was "backordered but you're the next to ship..." Card payment went through, still no generator. Third time I called in mid-December, they said it was still backordered so I decided to cancel the order. The salesman said they'd, "let me know when the cancellation went through" and flat out hung up on me. I called again last week, the cancelled transaction has still not processed but they "don't know why."

I understand this is a popular generator. But I can't think of any reason for this kind of poor service. Had it shown "backordered" to begin with, I wouldn't have placed the order initially.

Trying to get my money back...that's the real issue now.

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