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Old 06-20-2024, 04:12 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Jackery 2000 Plus 30A plug with 25A max

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Jackery 2000 plus with an extra battery and several 200 watt solar panels. One of the big selling points was that it has a 30 amp receptacle for a 30 amp RV plug.

So I was planning to just to plug my good ole 27FB into the unit and I would be off to the boondocking races.

Well, my hopes were slashed this morning when I read in the specs that said the output of that 30 amp RV receptacle had a 25 amps output max. Huh? A 30amp plug with a 25 amp max?

What do folks think I can run in the trailer with 25 amps max and up to 4,000 watt max capacity? Trying to figure out if I should return the whole setup or keep it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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What were you hoping to run with the Jackery battery?

It will power all sorts of smaller devices and help to extend your trailer battery life. The 25A limit shouldn’t be a problem.

But if you were thinking you'd run the air conditioning off of this, nope. Not for long, not even with a 30A output. It’s not a generator. It’s a portable high capacity battery.
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Old 06-20-2024, 06:49 PM   #3
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I guess what I mainly want to run is one tv, one Apple TV, one internet router, the water pump, the blower for the gas furnace, and my wife's blow dryer for a few minutes, lights.

I would like to run the a/c if possible for my pooch if he is stuck in the trailer during the day, if we go somewhere for a little while that doesn't allow dogs. I would also be great to be able to run the microwave from time to time. Both of those desires may be wishful thinking. I bought 6 solar panels so that is 1200 watts of refill power if there is sun where I am going, but most state parks have a lot of trees, so that 1200 watt number will probably never be achieved.

We do normally get full hookup sites, but sometimes they just aren't available in the areas we have gone to when going with a group that's staying in a state park.

I was mainly annoyed that the Jackery marketing materials pushed 30 amps in big type and then in small type it says 25 amps maximum. So it's a 30 amp plug with a 25 amp breaker.
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Someone really good with solar and current draw will have to crunch those numbers. But I don’t believe you’ll be running a/c for very long on that set-up.

As for leaving the pooch in hot weather, my suggestion would be to only do that when you are hooked-up to shore-power. I wouldn’t chance it on batteries/solar panels.
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in north America ie all of can and usa
outlets can only use 80% of power.
12a on a 15a outlet
16a on a 2oa outlet
25a on a 30a outlet

that it what the breakers trip at
read any electrical std and that is what it will tell you
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Old 06-20-2024, 11:02 PM   #6
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Well isn't that interesting. Thank you for that!

It didn't even cross my mind that the 25 amps max draw could be code.

So then the max draw out of a shore power 30 amp receptacle, let's say your everyday KOA, would be 25 amps as well?

So in essense are you saying that a 30amp breaker pops at 25 amps?
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I was looking into powering our single 15k BTU A/C off a 15A circuit but learned even with a soft start I'd still need 20A. So, with a soft start and 25A you should be able to run a single A/C. They typically draw around 1100W-1300W so with a 2000W you can get an hour and a half or so.
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I run AC on mine

I have that precise Jackery unit. It’s mounted under my tonneau with a single 200 watt Renogy panel on the tonneau. Together, they power my StarLink. I wanted Starlink separate from all other trailer electric and usable when I’m in the Tundra and the AS is elsewhere.

I only have the 2000 watt hour battery in my Jackery.

For yucks, I added the Dometic brand soft start to my Dometic NXT AC (I eventually junked the Penguin II that AS installed on my trailer). I can run the AC just fine on the Jackery, although only for an hour. Yours would run longer. The NXT draws about 17 amps when air conditioning.

A typical blow dryer might draw 12.5 amps (1500 watts/120 volts).
Apple TV draws about 0 amps (rounded) given 3 watts
A typical 32” tv about 0.5 amps (60 watts)

So, if you manage your loads, you can run quite a lot. With your add on batteries, you can also run quite a long time (except for AC or blow dryer).

Be mindful that your converter can be a big user of 120 v power. If you want the Jackery to run typical 120 volt stuff, flip off the breaker that lets your converter charge your trailer batteries.
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It’s simple math. The Jackery 2000 has about 2000 watt hours of available output, and it has a 3000 watt inverter. Running a 100 watt device gives you about 20 hours. Running a 1000 watt device gives you about 2 hours or less. I have a Goal Zero 6000x and can run small devices for 4 or 5 days. My onboard NOCO 25 amp battery charger keeps my house and van batteries always topped up. I can run a Kuerig or a furnace fan or a pump or a fridge without issue. It will start and run the AC, but that’s going to drain it very very fast, and the internal fan will kick on and roar. I would try to go to places where AC is not needed. Otherwise, you should be OK for a day or two off grid without recharging. And if you can deploy solar in the high-hundreds of watts, you will be able to relax in a noise free environment with ample power. If you require AC, plug in or get a quiet Inverter generator.
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in north America ie all of can and usa
outlets can only use 80% of power.
12a on a 15a outlet
16a on a 2oa outlet
25a on a 30a outlet

that it what the breakers trip at
read any electrical std and that is what it will tell you
Well, sort of true……
“Continuous load” (>3hrs 45min) at 80%
Breakers trip at rating (hopefully)
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I did not return mine should have. Now its carried in the truck as a emergency backup power supply as well as our Honda 2200 gen. At home its in the office as a power back up.

What can you use it for? Well an Air Fryer, a Coffee maker , A portable power supply. I once ran the AC at a rest stop off ours for a whopping 45 minutes till the BMS gave up battery depleted.

So it's good for an outside portable power supply, if the trailer power fails it can be used as a backup-= Other than that it's no Ronnie Dennis Victron Up total trailer upgrade. That's a min Trade Wind package or more.









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Hello all,

I recently purchased a Jackery 2000 plus with an extra battery and several 200 watt solar panels. One of the big selling points was that it has a 30 amp receptacle for a 30 amp RV plug.

So I was planning to just to plug my good ole 27FB into the unit and I would be off to the boondocking races.

Well, my hopes were slashed this morning when I read in the specs that said the output of that 30 amp RV receptacle had a 25 amps output max. Huh? A 30amp plug with a 25 amp max?

What do folks think I can run in the trailer with 25 amps max and up to 4,000 watt max capacity? Trying to figure out if I should return the whole setup or keep it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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Old 06-21-2024, 11:00 PM   #13
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I was looking into powering our single 15k BTU A/C off a 15A circuit but learned even with a soft start I'd still need 20A. So, with a soft start and 25A you should be able to run a single A/C. They typically draw around 1100W-1300W so with a 2000W you can get an hour and a half or so.
Thank you. How many amps does the A/C pull without the soft start? Will 25 amps do it?
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I did not return mine should have. Now its carried in the truck as a emergency backup power supply as well as our Honda 2200 gen. At home its in the office as a power back up.

What can you use it for? Well an Air Fryer, a Coffee maker , A portable power supply. I once ran the AC at a rest stop off ours for a whopping 45 minutes till the BMS gave up battery depleted.

So it's good for an outside portable power supply, if the trailer power fails it can be used as a backup-= Other than that it's no Ronnie Dennis Victron Up total trailer upgrade. That's a min Trade Wind package or more.
Which model Jackery do you have and why do you think you should have returned it?
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I have that precise Jackery unit. It’s mounted under my tonneau with a single 200 watt Renogy panel on the tonneau. Together, they power my StarLink. I wanted Starlink separate from all other trailer electric and usable when I’m in the Tundra and the AS is elsewhere.

I only have the 2000 watt hour battery in my Jackery.

For yucks, I added the Dometic brand soft start to my Dometic NXT AC (I eventually junked the Penguin II that AS installed on my trailer). I can run the AC just fine on the Jackery, although only for an hour. Yours would run longer. The NXT draws about 17 amps when air conditioning.

A typical blow dryer might draw 12.5 amps (1500 watts/120 volts).
Apple TV draws about 0 amps (rounded) given 3 watts
A typical 32” tv about 0.5 amps (60 watts)

So, if you manage your loads, you can run quite a lot. With your add on batteries, you can also run quite a long time (except for AC or blow dryer).

Be mindful that your converter can be a big user of 120 v power. If you want the Jackery to run typical 120 volt stuff, flip off the breaker that lets your converter charge your trailer batteries.
Will the A/C start without the soft start? I have the max 25 amps and 4000 watts of batteries (2000 plus extra battery). Thanks!
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in north America ie all of can and usa
outlets can only use 80% of power.
12a on a 15a outlet
16a on a 2oa outlet
25a on a 30a outlet

that it what the breakers trip at
read any electrical std and that is what it will tell you
Thank you. So would a normal 30 amp RV outlet at a full hookup RV site trip at 25 amps or 30 amps?

If the Jackery is labeled in the specs as 25 amps maximum output would it then mean that it trips at 20 amps (80%), or is the 25 amps the reduction from the 30 amps?

I was also wondering if it had more due to the size of their inverter and could be 3000 watts max.
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[/QUOTE=F250;2740360]Thank you. So would a normal 30 amp RV outlet at a full hookup RV site trip at 25 amps or 30 amps?
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It will trip at 30 amps as DaveG mentioned above. The 80% rule is for continuous loads (like a space heater).
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It will trip at 30 amps as DaveG mentioned above. The 80% rule is for continuous loads (like a space heater).
Even a space heater is not considered a continuous load if it has a thermostat
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in north America ie all of can and usa
outlets can only use 80% of power.
12a on a 15a outlet
16a on a 2oa outlet
25a on a 30a outlet

that it what the breakers trip at
read any electrical std and that is what it will tell you
I don't know Canadian code and standards but that is certainly not true in the US, and I don't know of any circuit breakers that trip under their rating unless they are defective.
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Hello all,

I recently purchased a Jackery 2000 plus with an extra battery and several 200 watt solar panels. One of the big selling points was that it has a 30 amp receptacle for a 30 amp RV plug.

So I was planning to just to plug my good ole 27FB into the unit and I would be off to the boondocking races.

Well, my hopes were slashed this morning when I read in the specs that said the output of that 30 amp RV receptacle had a 25 amps output max. Huh? A 30amp plug with a 25 amp max?

What do folks think I can run in the trailer with 25 amps max and up to 4,000 watt max capacity? Trying to figure out if I should return the whole setup or keep it.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

Here’s another option for your consideration. Return the entire thing asap. Buy a Honda 3000 which is now 59 lbs or alternatively a Honda 2200i. These will cover your needs for both off grid camping as well as home use for an outage or emergency (or camping where you need to deal with charging).

Go to Hutch Mountain and order their soft start breeze product and install on your Airstream A/C.

You can then run your entire rig off the generator (either the 3000 OR the 2200) and have A/C for your rig and plenty of capacity. The softstart will let your A/C unit start up and then easily run off the Honda. You can also buy a Yamaha 2000 on sale at Costco for $375 if you want to go cheaper than the Honda units. The Honda’s a better at idle.

Finally, you can buy one or two Renogy solar panels directly from them and use them as adjunct into your ZAMP solar ports on the airstream to charge your regular rig.

Hope this helps you get options, we have found that a flexible set up which is a mix of gas generator and solar is a good platform.
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