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Old 02-11-2024, 09:24 AM   #1
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Question Honda EU3000is for a 2023 23FBT International

Seriously considering a Honda EU3000is for our 2023 23FBT Intl. I know we can run the A/C on a 20 amp 110VAC outlet as it draws about 17 amps measured with two quality digital clamp meters. The 2200 has only 15 amp outlets. I'd just leave it in the bed of the F150 as it weighs ~130lbs but it's super quiet.


Anyone using this? Your experience?


P.S. We live in SW Florida so a generator is a good idea. And yes - Ian did a number on our house.
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Old 02-11-2024, 02:16 PM   #2
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Generac 3000W Generator on 27FB 30A

englewoodfl,

I use a Generac 3000i Inverter Generator that will put out 19.2A (2300W running) and can run the AC not a problem but I also have a EasyStart (soft start) mounted on the AC. You will want to install one of those to reduce the Inrush current you will see when the compressor starts.

You will not be able to run the AC and the Microwave or coffeemaker at the same time.

I think the newest version of this is the Generac 3300i which give you a bit more capacity.

The Honda is a good unit with an excellent reputation and should have similar specs. Just a bit more expensive.

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Be sure to check out the EU3200i before you purchase the EU3000 … the 3200 has slightly more power, but is significantly less weight.
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Anyone using this? Your experience?
Yes. I have a Honda EU3000is because we used them at work and I got first hand experience on how reliable they are.
I bought mine through Craig's list with only 7 hours and all the paperwork.
Yes, they're heavy but also have a 4.6 gal gas tank.
BTW, there's a 20 amp twist lock outlet on the front. For some reason Honda stuck with the twist lock thinking it wouldn't fall out due to vibration. There's easily available twist lock to RV 30 amp plugs. I just leave mine plugged into the generator so I don't misplace it.
Mine also stays in the truck. Although I did buy a 'hydraulic table' from Harbor Freight that rises up to the tailgate if I want to take it out at home. Works great, built like a tank.

Having said that, I'm amazed at how little I actually use it. Rarely to run the a/c, although I have. Mostly to run the microwave and coffee maker. I discovered open windows!
If money was no object and size was not a factor I'd have the Honda 7000.

The local Honda store told me that Busch Gardens Theme Park uses the Honda 3000, and runs them for 200,000 hours.

However, If I was starting over, I'd seriously consider the Champion 4500. Just from a cost/use standpoint.
The market is flooded with Chinese generators badged with American names. You'll find the American company just sold the name and doesn't actually warrantee them.
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I have one and it will run the 15000 btu with a little strain. No sweat on the 12000 btu unit. About the only thing that will trip either unit is microwave. I am installing Softstarts on both units this spring after Airstream warranty expires. I have talked to several people that can run both A/C at the same time with the 3000i.
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Look at a Yamaha EF4500iSE. The engine runs at 2600rpm.
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I did have one. I liked the electric start but didn't like the weight. It was a dependable machine and unbelievably quiet.
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AC initial startup draw may be your problem unless you have a “Soft Start” on your AC. I went with an Onan 4500 and can run both my AC’s, one having the soft Start.
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I used a Honda 3000EU for 8 years on my 2015 23RB FC. Works great I traded my 23RB FC for a 2023 25RBT with 2 AC units in August 2023. The Honda 3000 worked good, but sometimes kicked the over current when the second AC unit compressor turned on - too much correct for two AC at the same time. I have since purchased a second Honda 3000EU with cross over cable to connect the two together to get the high current when two AC's are needed.
Good luck, you can not go wrong with the Honda 3000EU, reliable, quiet, just a bit heavy, about 140 Lbs. ( I get help loading into my TV)
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To heavy

Lean to manage on a 2200 or similar
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Soft Start

I have an Active Start "soft start". I like it as it's external so nothing installed up top and could be used elsewhere. Has a nice phone interface.
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The 3200i spec has 1.2 gallon fuel tank.
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If a large fuel tank is a primary concern, there are several 3rd party kits that can pull fuel from a secondary tank, this is one example, there are a few others like this.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WYM75ND...T1zcF9kZXRhaWw
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I was also interested in the Honda generators, but settled with a Generac GP3300i. Great generator, at half the cost. Use the money saved somewhere else.
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Seriously considering a Honda EU3000is for our 2023 23FBT Intl. I know we can run the A/C on a 20 amp 110VAC outlet as it draws about 17 amps measured with two quality digital clamp meters. The 2200 has only 15 amp outlets. I'd just leave it in the bed of the F150 as it weighs ~130lbs but it's super quiet.


Anyone using this? Your experience?


P.S. We live in SW Florida so a generator is a good idea. And yes - Ian did a number on our house.
Understand the concern for use at home, but the EU3000 is heavy. You might consider two of the Honda 2200's. One will work fine for your 23', and likely all you will need most of the time when camping. 45lbs each. If you need more power, you link them together. You can also get them set up for propane also, thru Genconnex (turn key) or modify with Hutch Mountain folks. I moved to the Honda 2200 2 years back with propane.

The other option I would surely consider is looking at Champion Dual Fuel line. Many of us have used Champion without issues for many years. I had the 3400 Dual Fuel Champion with electric start (95lbs) for many years. Cost of the Champion is less than Honda; you also have options of linking a couple 2400's together (45lbs each). I know you said you were likely going to leave the generator in the bed of your truck, but not sure the advantage of a big 3000E over having the flexibility to move around 2 smaller lighter units if needed. Good luck!
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Old 02-15-2024, 07:33 AM   #16
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Two are better than one

The 2200 can run about 8 hours on tank where the 3000 is about 20 hours. But two 2200 with cable are $1900 B/4 tax where the 3000 is $2150. The 3000 is very heavy for a senior citizen. If needed we could probably run just the A/C and fridge in a pinch with one 2200.

I knew about this since other people here in SWFL have Honda generators and love them. Super quiet.


Change of plan...
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My suggestion would be to buy one 2200 with the 30A socket. See how that works for you. You can always add the second unit. The Genconnex propane version of the Honda works great for us. Yes, you can't run the microwave while the AC is running, but heck, that's pretty easy to work around.
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Running AC on a generator....

I don't think I am the only one here, who envisioned "boondocking" to include running your AC in very hot temps early on when I got my first AS... We thought with a generator, we could go to the desert or campsites from Texas to Florida without any concern for running AC, now that we had a generator...Wrong...we boondocked first in Borrego Springs in spring time, where it was hot during the day ~100+ some days...but cool at night. We would go do our day tripping and when we returned it would be late afternoon..even though we had run the fan with windows open all day, we still needed AC to cool us down...after an hour or so it would get "livable", and we did sleep ok later in the evening as it cooled down without the AC. Many states still have the humidity and it can be miserable without a dehumidifier. We learned here in Texas, it's night and day comfort wise when we use our dehumidifier along with our AC. A generator running all night is not practical for us...so these days, we use the generator as a back up mostly, and try to find sites with milder temps when boondocking...Glacier, Teton, Yellowstone...and when we are in the hot/humid areas, we look for power hookups these days. Thats another reason the smaller, lighter (Honda 2200 propane model) generator is what we went to. Can run our AC when/if needed, but primary use is charging during boondocking. YMMV
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Our situation is less bookdocking and more visiting. One family unit, despite having an acreage, lives where we can't have "Starshine" near the house. Have to park in a densely wooded area near the maintenance shop so solar just to even run the fridge isn't available. We are going to try some "booning" this year - just don't know where.


Our old generator was on the shop floor and got wiped out with water from Ian. The big guy (6500W running) is huge and we've decided to sell it since we're not going to install a transfer switch - but it was very useful as we didn't power for days afte3r Ian.
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Our situation is less bookdocking and more visiting. One family unit, despite having an acreage, lives where we can't have "Starshine" near the house. Have to park in a densely wooded area near the maintenance shop so solar just to even run the fridge isn't available. We are going to try some "booning" this year - just don't know where.


Our old generator was on the shop floor and got wiped out with water from Ian. The big guy (6500W running) is huge and we've decided to sell it since we're not going to install a transfer switch - but it was very useful as we didn't power for days afte3r Ian.
Again, thats another reason to consider 2 smaller 2200 models linked together if needed. A pair of Honda's or the Dual Fuel Champion 2500's I would certainly look closely at for their fuel flexibility and cost vs the Honda's; both great generators. Moving around the smaller generator's is much easier plus you have flexibility of running one most of the time or two if needed.
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