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Old 10-25-2014, 06:48 PM   #1
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Honda EU2000 storage box inquiry

Air Streamers........All hands on deck!!!!!! I just purchased two 2014 Honda EU2000 generators for my first road trip in my new,to me, Airstream. I was hoping that someone out there has gone through the learning curve on determining the best storage container for these units. I did see in a 2008 post that a 24 gallon Action Packer was the Bomb but testing shows that the new fuel cap design is problematic. Suggestions Airstreamers? Thanks Doug
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The new gas cap looks huge! Is there any chance that a replacement cap for the earlier model will fit? That might be an option, unless there is some function that the new cap has/does that is important to you.
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I carry a single 2000. I just put it in the truck. It does not leak, it is nicely contained in its cover. I would hate to have to lift it in and out of something else.
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Hmmmmm...... Maybe. Old cap is a good idea. I will check that out. Love that practical thinking. Others????
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If you think you may later add an extended run tank and hoses, you might want to take a look at "The Upper Red Cap", instead of buying a Honda gas cap. That could save you buying two more gas caps at a later date.

See more information on extended run tanks, hoses, fittings and gas caps at this link:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...ml#post1164539
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Phoenix....... You are introducing many things to think about. It seems I may need to consider extended run time tanks and I haven't even put oil in the new machines. Love the input and ideas...thanks.
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Bill M...... I will be transporting the generators in the trailer (on the floor of the living space) or in the tow vehicle ( I do not have a truck). My hope was to keep smells at a minimum via a second containment shield. You may be correct in that I may not need one as the units are well constructed. Thanks for the input.
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Old, Non-California caps work fine. My Companion came as a Cal model and I swapped out the cap. You can also heat the lid at the cap area well with a hair dryer and re-install the lid over your existing cap. It will shape a "dent' in the inner lid layer and cool to that shape. Also get some foam tape weatherstripping for the lid and odors will be greatly diminished.
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Camping World has individual storage bags on wheels and lifting straps for the 2000 watt Honda generators.
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I will be transporting the generators in the trailer (on the floor of the living space)

For what it's worth I did this ONE TIME, and the rubber feet of the Honda 2000 left permanent little "bullseye" marks on the light colored flooring in my 2013 International. I've tried everything I can think of to remove the marks, but so far no luck. So be careful with that option!
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Spamcan.....thanks for the lesson learned. I owe you one. D
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I have carried mine in my trailer to reduce load in the truck. I put them in the hall over the rear most axle. I simply used the boxes they came in. Realizing these boxes will ultimately get destroyed, I too would be interested in a more permanent solution. I will look into Camping World's offering.

By the way, get the extended run setup. I use it most of the time I have the trailer on generator power. It will run one or two generators and is well worth the expense. I bet I have had 25 people stop and inquire about it. It will run the generators all night with no problem.
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It's cheap, but: We bought some $10 storage containers from Lowe's. Ours are dark gray, but we also have some tan ones that have photos in them, and we have some others that we keep in the back of the truck for those times we want something back there to stay dry/out of sight (we have a cap on the bed, but it doesn't always stop water from getting in). I don't fully trust the containers; I always remove the generator from the container when I'm loading it into the truck, but on the other hand we've had them a couple years and no generator has fallen out yet. The lids lock reasonably well, not great; before we had the cap on the new truck, I strapped bungee cords around the containers+lids to be safe.

They're also large enough to cram in a 1 gallon gas can, cable lock, and the connection cables.
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As most EU2000i users will tell you, the fuel tank is vented to the atmoshpere via the fuel cap. The EU2000i has a flip-style vent control built into the cap; when open, a certain amount of fuel vapor naturally exits the vent. In 2010, both US EPA and California emission rules changed, requiring reduction of these evaporative emissions.

Honda elected to capture them by enlarging the fuel cap in fitting a charcoal "donut" for air to flow in/out of the tank. The charcoal captures the emissions, and is good for the life of the generator. To encourage continued use, the cap is also tethered to the filler neck.

It's true the smaller, older caps will fit newer models and vice-versa, but fitting an old-style cap to a generator not originally made for it technically violates EPA & California emissions regulations.

It is okay to fit the larger cap to an older model and you can sleep better knowing you helped reduce emissions a small bit.
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You could always STORE it in the Rubbermaid Action Packer (that's what we use) using the old cap...and switch the cap to the new one when in USE...that way you are covered in both instances...
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Is there really a need for a storage box? We have carried a Honda gennie just "as is" for a few years now - I would think a storage box for it would be just something else to bring along.

Maybe I am missing something - we do carry ours in the back of the truck (with Leer cap) and maybe if carried in an SUV there might be more of a need for a box. But the gas cap has a shutoff valve on the vent and I have never noticed any gasoline smell at all.

Might be worth just trying it without a storage box first - unless there is another reason for a box?

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Not really. I don't think odors would be much of an issue either... That said, we carry one in the Action Packer and the other with just a cover on it...the tote is handy, though as there is room for cables, adapters, manuals, extra oil, a few tools, etc... We use the tote as a side table on the patio, too, or an extra seat ... so it serves double-duty.
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We have a cap on our truck, but we prefer to keep the expensive generator completely out of sight when not in use. Also, we keep them in our shed at home, and they would quickly get covered with dirt and cobwebs.
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Honda 2000 Generators Mounted on Frame/bumper

This method is rather simple. The generators fold in to dransport and fold out to open the bumper storage and fill with fuel. When running for long time I put generators on the ground to reduce vibration and noise.
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As most EU2000i users will tell you, the fuel tank is vented to the atmoshpere via the fuel cap. The EU2000i has a flip-style vent control built into the cap; when open, a certain amount of fuel vapor naturally exits the vent. In 2010, both US EPA and California emission rules changed, requiring reduction of these evaporative emissions.

Honda elected to capture them by enlarging the fuel cap in fitting a charcoal "donut" for air to flow in/out of the tank. The charcoal captures the emissions, and is good for the life of the generator. To encourage continued use, the cap is also tethered to the filler neck.

It's true the smaller, older caps will fit newer models and vice-versa, but fitting an old-style cap to a generator not originally made for it technically violates EPA & California emissions regulations.

It is okay to fit the larger cap to an older model and you can sleep better knowing you helped reduce emissions a small bit.
Robert, if EPA regulations are the same as vehicles, there's a loophole for consumers. While it is true that it is illegal for manufacturers and licensed repair facilities (dealers and other commercial repair establishments), to modify emissions equipment, it is not illegal Federally, for an individual to modify anything. However, (for vehicles) if you live in a non-compliance area with vehicle testing, you just won't get to renew your registration without returning the vehicle to OEM specs. This is a State run mandate, not Fed. (although the feds do "incentivize"the states to run emissions testing)

Basically an individual can do what they want to their Gennie....like modify it for tri-fuel, etc. Dealers and commercial businesses can't. (unless that mod, like propane carries an EPA certification on the equipment)

STATES MAY VARY on this though....particularly California.
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