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07-19-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jsvetrano
I own both the Honda Eu2000 and the Eu3000 generators. I am a mobile DJ and I use my generators when I do outdoor events. I bought the EU3000 first, then decided on a more portable unit. Being the owner of both, here is my assessment of each unit
Honda EU2000
+ Portable, lightweight
+ Able to bridge 2 units together for higher output
- Slightly noisier than a EU3000
- Difficult to see when fillling tank because of that fuel strainer. Needs
fuel gauge
Honda EU3000
+ Quiet
+ Plenty of power
+ Fuel gauge & electric start
+ Longer run time
- Heavy to lift especially when filled with gas
In conclusion, I prefer 1 EU3000 over 2 EU2000's because you have more power, longer run time and it's less expensive than 2 EU2000's and a parallel kit. Just buy a $20 dolly from Home Depot and wheel it around. if you can lift 140 lbs onto a truck, go with the EU3000 otherwise, 2 EU2000's will do you fine. I think Honda needs to come out with a unit that fills the gap between the EU2000 and the EU3000 and weighs under 100 lbs.
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By purchasing the external tank(s) through DurationPower in the vendor section, you can increase run times to as long as you wish with two EU2000 units. It sure would be fantastic if Honda came out with a 3,800-4,000 watt unit that weighed only 70 pounds.
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07-19-2008, 08:41 PM
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#82
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I have the 2 2000's and have been very happy with them. I like the option of using just one of the when I'm not running the A/C. I have the six gallon tank from Duration Power. It will run the two generators steadily for 24 hours. I like the 3000, but I just can't handle the weight getting it in and out of the Suburban.
Brian
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07-19-2008, 10:10 PM
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#83
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1 Rivet Member
2012 19' Flying Cloud
Bricktown
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I do like the concept of twin generators, kinda like twin outboards on a boat. Keep in mind though that it is more time consuming to set up 2 EU2000's with external fuel tanks and the parallel kit than 1 EU3000. My philosophy on generators is better to have the power and not need it than need it and not have it. By the way, Yamaha makes the EF2400iS which is rated @ 2000 watts and 2400 peak and weighs 70 lbs. Too bad Honda does not make a unit like this. I considered the Yamaha, but my Honda dealer is 5 minutes away. Any feedback on the Yamaha's?
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07-20-2008, 12:01 AM
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#84
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvetrano
I do like the concept of twin generators, kinda like twin outboards on a boat. Keep in mind though that it is more time consuming to set up 2 EU2000's with external fuel tanks and the parallel kit than 1 EU3000. My philosophy on generators is better to have the power and not need it than need it and not have it....
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Not if you can't get the heavier generator into or out of the truck by yourself! I have the Yamaha 3000iSEB which weighs around 151 pounds. Several times I have had to wait a few hours for one of my hunting buddies to show up in camp to help me lift the thing off my tailgate. I have also had to wait until one of my son's got home to help me get the thing into the truck bed to start with. One time one of my hunting buddies did not show up as he had said he would and I ended up running the Yamaha in the bed of the truck. I left it in the bed under a tarp, hoping no one would rip me off while I hunted. I wasn't pleased with the situation nor my friend. I plan accordingly now by using folding aluminum (what else) ramps to roll the Yamaha into and out of the truck bed.
I really like the electric start on my Yamaha and how quiet it is. I also like the long run time. Is the weight enough for me to get rid of it? No, but those Hondas sure are easy to set up. I'd say that set up time would be about the same time if I included pulling the ramps out of the truck, running the retaining strap for each ramp under the tailgate, and rolling the generator down the ramps without being run over. Obviously, if I could just pick up the big Yamaha and lower her to the ground by myself, she would just roll into position and be ready to start.
I do like your last statement though because you never know when you will need more power. The two EU2000's give you just that, if needed.
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Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
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07-20-2008, 12:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvetrano;592162
In conclusion, I prefer 1 EU3000 over 2 EU2000's because you have more power, longer run time and it's less expensive than 2 EU2000's and a parallel kit. Just buy a $20 dolly from Home Depot and wheel it around. if you can lift 140 lbs onto a truck, go with the EU3000 otherwise, 2 EU2000's will do you fine. [COLOR=red
"I think Honda needs to come out with a unit that fills the gap between the EU2000 and the EU3000 and weighs less than 100 lbs."[/COLOR]
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Hi, Yamaha did that with the 2400 @ 70lbs. And that is one of the main reasons that I bought the Yamaha 2400.
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07-20-2008, 12:53 AM
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1986 25' Sovereign
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, Yamaha did that with the 2400 @ 70lbs. And that is one of the main reasons that I bought the Yamaha 2400.
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Robert, how many hours do you have on that 2400? I think I am a little over 135 hrs. with the 3000iSEB and she runs great. I did find one quirk though. If the carb has fuel in it when I run it up or down the ramps loading it into the truck, it has a tendency to foul the plug and won't start until I pull/clean the plug off. No problem if the fuel shut off has been used and the carb empty.
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'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
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07-20-2008, 01:31 AM
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Hi, davidz71. I just bought it, [my Yamaha 2400] and only played with it for about thirty minutes total so far. No real time experiences yet.
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07-20-2008, 06:55 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I was told when you bridge (2) Eu2000's together, you can't use the standard 120v outlets on theEu2000's. You can only use the 30 amp receptacle on the parallel kit. At least on the Eu3000, you have the option of using both the 30 amp twist lock and standard duplex receptacles. We all agree that two Eu2000's are more portable than 1 Eu3000 and I'm sure thieves know that also.
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07-20-2008, 07:24 AM
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Light weight and portability do indeed make it attractive to thieves. There is even concern that if you run chain or wire rope through the handle that thieves will cut through the handle to get the Honda. Ouch.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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07-20-2008, 09:13 PM
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1998 31' Excella 1000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvetrano
I do like the concept of twin generators, kinda like twin outboards on a boat. Keep in mind though that it is more time consuming to set up 2 EU2000's with external fuel tanks and the parallel kit than 1 EU3000. My philosophy on generators is better to have the power and not need it than need it and not have it. By the way, Yamaha makes the EF2400iS which is rated @ 2000 watts and 2400 peak and weighs 70 lbs. Too bad Honda does not make a unit like this. I considered the Yamaha, but my Honda dealer is 5 minutes away. Any feedback on the Yamaha's?
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Bought the 2400, sold it just as quick. The unit does not live up to Yamaha's advertising and claims. If you're looking for a generator to run a 13500 BTU AC, you need more watts than the 2400 can provide. Keep using it and you'll be looking for a new gen set or AC - depends on which one gives out/burns out first.
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07-22-2008, 09:42 PM
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What about the Honda EB3000? It weighs 68 lbs and puts out 3000 watts. The contractor who works at my local library has one and loves it! It's not as quiet as an EU3000, but it's much lighter and puts out the same power.
Honda Power Equipment - EB3000
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07-23-2008, 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvetrano
What about the Honda EB3000? It weighs 68 lbs and puts out 3000 watts. The contractor who works at my local library has one and loves it! It's not as quiet as an EU3000, but it's much lighter and puts out the same power.
Honda Power Equipment - EB3000
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I'm sure your neighbors in the next campsite at the state park will also love it and you too .
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07-23-2008, 10:08 AM
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#93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsvetrano
What about the Honda EB3000? It weighs 68 lbs and puts out 3000 watts. The contractor who works at my local library has one and loves it! It's not as quiet as an EU3000, but it's much lighter and puts out the same power.
Honda Power Equipment - EB3000
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The EB3000 will do the job as far as providing the power, but at 70+ db, I sure hope that you're camping by yourself. I don't think that I would care to be in the same campground when you fire that dude up.
Brian
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07-23-2008, 11:02 AM
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Halimer
2006 25' Classic
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While at the 2008 Vintage Trailer Jam the Colin Iwasa from Yamaha USA ran my 15K BTU AC for over 45 minutes. I had the frig on gas and the 2 AGM batteries were charged (have solar). No other 110 volt AC devices were on. I ran the 19 LCD Sony TV via the inverter for 15 minutes while AC was on high fan speed and the compressor was on. After I shut the TV off, Colin asked me to have my wife plug in her hair dryer(2000 watt) and run it on low heat. She had it on for over 5 minutes. We switched it up to high heat the the breakers tripped on the generator and AS. We reset the breakers (AS and 2400) and waited 5 minutes before starting the 2400 and AC. The AC's compressor came on after about a minute and it continued to cool the camper. The 2400 never ran that loudly even with the hair dryer on low speed. The temperature was in the upper 80's and humidity was high.
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