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Keyair · 08-25-2018, 06:40 PM

Good info, thanks...

Keyair · 08-25-2018, 06:42 PM

Saw this, and thought it worth posting...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/harbor-fr...100244375.html

gypsydad · 08-26-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rmkrum

Test carefully. I know on the 3400 Champion dual fuel inverter the regulator hose length from engine to the low pressure regulator is designed to work just right. Can’t extend it any and be sure it will still run correctly. This regulator precisely controls fuel flow based on engine vacuum.

I was able to make it work with my 20' hose by attaching the stock Champion "regulator" in line with the generator, but that's a pain to take apart if I want to use it with my AS LP quick disconnect in front. I wanted to find a separate regulator that will work, but have not been able to find one yet. Tried contacting Champion, but no luck there. Any assistance is appreciated. I typically just use the 20lb portable bottle...gives me more options for positioning the generator exhaust when I take it out of the bed. (and that's a pain also...95lbs each time I move it in/out of back...used to be a lot easier when I was younger... last year!

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xfish · 07-25-2019, 03:24 PM

Really impressed with the 3500 Predator, but live and boondock in colorado in our 2018
28ft AS serenity. What do folks that have the 3500 think about using it at altitude with the known air intake problem? Should I be biting the bullet and getting a Honda eu3000is

gypsydad · 07-26-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xfish

Really impressed with the 3500 Predator, but live and boondock in colorado in our 2018
28ft AS serenity. What do folks that have the 3500 think about using it at altitude with the known air intake problem? Should I be biting the bullet and getting a Honda eu3000is

Honda 3000 is great, but heavy (134lbs) and expensive ($2400~). The Champion Dual Fuel 3400 is a great choice, runs propane or gas, and is lot less expensive then Honda, and noise level is in same DB range...(you likely already know all this?) With the Dual Fuel, you have choices on fuel, it is quiet, inexpensive ($1,000~), weighs 95lbs, and very reliable. YMMV

rmkrum · 07-26-2019, 11:58 AM

The Champion Dual fuel 3400 is also easy to modify to connect to the Airstream’s propane tanks and regulator.

Search the forums for details of the modification I and others have done.

Mollysdad · 07-26-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gypsydad

Honda 3000 is great, but heavy (134lbs) and expensive ($2400~).

True.
However, I bought my Honda off Craig's list, it had only 7 hours, the owner had all the manuals and paperwork, and it looks and runs as new. Saved a bunch.
If I wasn't a Honda fan, I'd get the Champion.

wk0g · 07-27-2019, 02:30 PM

I have had the Predator 3500 in use with my Excella 1000 for little over a year. No high altitude use as we don't go to northern NM anymore. The first generator refused to start after 40 hours. The second and current one runs great approaching 200 hours. This brings up the strong point for the HF generators, the HF guarantee, the first one was exchanged at the nearest store. I didn't have the box it came in with me, no problem. I had only to empty it of all fuel. With the basic warranty try it out, if it shoots craps at 8000+ altitude, take it back. I'm not sure the Honda would be that easy to exchange.
Just my two bits worth
Joe

carl2591 · 07-31-2019, 02:36 PM

Having new Predator 2000 generator I want to plug my Progressive Energies and just to check it it shows an open ground but she seems to be pretty prominent on these devices.

And reading some other post there seems to be a fix with a plug that you wire from The Ground Terminal to the neutral terminal and plug it in.

So my question to the collective is cuz it's not be done inside the unit on the plug itself to eliminate having to physically plug something in every time you use it or would that not be a good solution to this issue or just forget using the EMS and just plug it straight in.

bwpaint · 08-25-2019, 01:44 PM

I noticed on my kill a watt, voltage drops from 119v to 106v for less than a second, then recovers to 118v immediately when my ac starts. Will this hurt anything since it recovers so quickly? I have the 3500 and eco is turned off.

ROBERT CROSS · 08-26-2019, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by carl2591

Having new Predator 2000 generator I want to plug my Progressive Energies and just to check it it shows an open ground but she seems to be pretty prominent on these devices.

And reading some other post there seems to be a fix with a plug that you wire from The Ground Terminal to the neutral terminal and plug it in.

So my question to the collective is cuz it's not be done inside the unit on the plug itself to eliminate having to physically plug something in every time you use it or would that not be a good solution to this issue or just forget using the EMS and just plug it straight in.

I modified a dogbone,(ck link) to use with my 2000i.

Bob
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bobhaven · 08-26-2019, 09:29 AM

I just picked up a Predator 2000 at my local Harbor Freight for $198.00. It was a return, marked down. I was told by an employee friend of mine to pay additional $ for extended warranty- total $289.90. My friend then said to wait a month or so, bring it in and say it isn't running good, and they will replace it with a brand new one. Apparently, it is not uncommon for people to buy a piece of equipment from HF, use it for a weekend project, then bring it back in for a refund. HF even calls it the 'HF rental program' among themselves. I can't believe people would do such a thing, but apparently it happens all the time, and fortunately, it is a way for folks to pick up a bargain from the freight. My generator looks brand new, and runs fine- I don't believe I will be exchanging it for a new one in a few months. Anyway, if thinking of buying a predator, check with your local HF for returns.

rowiebowie · 08-26-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bwpaint

I noticed on my kill a watt, voltage drops from 119v to 106v for less than a second, then recovers to 118v immediately when my ac starts. Will this hurt anything since it recovers so quickly? I have the 3500 and eco is turned off.

A momentary drop like you describe won't hurt anything. It's just the extra draw of the compressor engaging and your generator or house current catching back up. You'd have to run while at 106 or below to risk damage, so you just don't want voltage to stay low.

carl2591 · 08-29-2019, 12:37 PM

just make sure you are NOT on econ mode when trying to start AC as the inrush on the compressor is like 76 amps for less than a second.. after that inrush it levels out at around 10 -12 amps.

that is the beauty of the micro air device in its ability to smooth out the inrush to a more manageable 45 amps inrush..

the better way for RV AC to start would be to start the compressor first then after a 1.5 sec delay start the fan.. not the other way around.

a lot of energy efficient t-stats for homes will start the compressor and after a 2-3 second delay start the indoor fan.. same with shutdown the stat will command the compressor off and keep indoor fan on for 90 seconds to evacuate the cool air from the system for added efficiency of unit.

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Originally Posted by rowiebowie

A momentary drop like you describe won't hurt anything. It's just the extra draw of the compressor engaging and your generator or house current catching back up. You'd have to run while at 106 or below to risk damage, so you just don't want voltage to stay low.

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Originally Posted by rowiebowie

A momentary drop like you describe won't hurt anything. It's just the extra draw of the compressor engaging and your generator or house current catching back up. You'd have to run while at 106 or below to risk damage, so you just don't want voltage to stay low.