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12-12-2019, 09:06 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 218
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Goal Zero 1000 on sale
For those interested, Goal Zero 1000 and a 100 watt panel is on sale at Costco for $999. $300 off
https://www.costco.com/.product.100486173.html?&EMID=B2C_2019_1212_DailyD ealsDay9
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12-12-2019, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Canfield
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sport 16 STL
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The literature from Goal zero says it will take from 20-40 hours to charge with this system. Probably closer to 40. That could be a week!
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2019 Airstream Classic 30 Twin
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12-12-2019, 09:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,031
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40 hrs is less than 2 days.
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12-12-2019, 09:47 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,534
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thewarden
40 hrs is less than 2 days.
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Only if you're in the Arctic near midsummer... the requirement is 40 hours of sunlight on the panel.
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12-12-2019, 10:48 AM
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#5
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3 Rivet Member
2018 16' Sport
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 218
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Check out the Delta 1000 by Eco Flow
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12-12-2019, 10:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
Only if you're in the Arctic near midsummer... the requirement is 40 hours of sunlight on the panel.
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Duh! Senior moment. Of course.
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12-12-2019, 12:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 129
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the 40 hours is going from a totally drained unit. I have several goal zero products and plan to power my TT with them. if you don't run them totally down it does not take long to charge them back to 100%. you just need to hook them to panels whenever you have the chance
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12-13-2019, 09:19 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 390
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Goal Zero works great. If you want to recharge it faster, get 3 or 4 panels, get a supercharger, or a car charging kit. When I'm driving, I run the coach inverter and use a super charger and a standard charger. The car charging kit may work best as it potentially allows much more input wattage. If you are going to get a GZ, the 3000 offers a lot more bang for your buck. Does anyone have any experience with the car charging kit?
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12-13-2019, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coasttocoast
Goal Zero works great. If you want to recharge it faster, get 3 or 4 panels, get a supercharger, or a car charging kit. When I'm driving, I run the coach inverter and use a super charger and a standard charger. The car charging kit may work best as it potentially allows much more input wattage. If you are going to get a GZ, the 3000 offers a lot more bang for your buck. Does anyone have any experience with the car charging kit?
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Tell me the advantage you see in the 3000 vs the 1000? More money, more weight; your close to cost of 2 Li batteries now...no need for a 3000 or what am I missing?
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12-13-2019, 11:01 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 92
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Hate to say it but Goal Zero product are nice looking but the quality is poor for the price. There are better products at lower price.
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12-13-2019, 11:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
2016 23' International
Fernandina Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 587
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I have 2 of the 3K units and one 1K unit. To answer some of the questions, the 3K comes with a Solar MPPT controller which allows for higher charge rates and faster charging (relatively speaking compared to the standard 8mm inputs) and you get a bit more bang for you buck in terms of Amp hours per dollar spent. You also get two AC power chargers with 8mm plugs with the 3K unit and just one with the 1K unit. The 1000 can be upgraded to having an MPPT controller, which I have done, for $100 or so. This kit, features a 100W foldable solar panel with an 8mm plug that can be chained to give more wattage (parallel only). Yeti's limit input voltage so don't try to put panels in series.
I have used the AC chargers but have not invested in the Car chargers. I have also invested in two 180 watt grape solar panels and two 100 watt grape solar panels. I use parallel connectors and use the Anderson Power Pole plugs to feed the MPPT controllers. I have used all four panels to feed the Yeti 560 watts successfully. You do see a difference between using the MPPT APP connector and the standard APP input (or 8mm for that matter).
Which you choose probably depends on how much storage capacity you need. I like having multiple uses as I can deploy them in different locations in my home or trailer. They are compact and easy to maintain. Anyone who compares them unfavorably to other lithium solutions doesn't value the flexibility and ease of use and deployment, in which I find great value. Bang for buck, they are hard to beat.
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12-13-2019, 12:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' International CCD FB
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thewarden
40 hrs is less than 2 days.
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This partially speaks to how large the battery is. It's also not limited to this mode of charging. I have mine integrated into the 400W solar on the rooftop of my airstream. With a $39 10amp charger, I can almost charge it full in one day. There's additional faster options too that can charge it upwards of 40 amps, which means a few hours to full charge.
My install here:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f37/...um-196422.html
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12-13-2019, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' International CCD FB
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 2,123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProTech
Hate to say it but Goal Zero product are nice looking but the quality is poor for the price. There are better products at lower price.
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Commentary without information.
Care to enlighten us?
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12-13-2019, 03:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProTech
Hate to say it but Goal Zero product are nice looking but the quality is poor for the price. There are better products at lower price.
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Our experience as well ...
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12-13-2019, 06:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
2016 23' International
Fernandina Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 587
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pteck
Commentary without information.
Care to enlighten us?
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apparently not
What's the good of making such a claim and not backing it up. The only other product that comes close to the portability of these that I am aware of is the EGO lithium multi-battery "generator" and it is not solar enabled, is more expensive in terms of amp hours per dollar and simply less functional. I like the EGO products, and I have their lawnmower which I love, but I had to laugh when I saw this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/EGO-56-V...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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12-13-2019, 08:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
Tell me the advantage you see in the 3000 vs the 1000? More money, more weight; your close to cost of 2 Li batteries now...no need for a 3000 or what am I missing?
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The 3000 sells at 20 to 25 percent off depending on the sale, and you will have more power and reserves. You can stay off grid more easily and more often. I've already used it on 22 nights to park where I want and not deal with campgrounds saving about $1100. Then there are the saved fuel cost of not having to drive to a campground as well as the reduced mileage. I've been able to go places that I would not ever have gotten to go to had I needed the plug in.
Let's say you plan to stay in one place for more than one night and you use it for fridge and freezer power, and you are not plugged in. You can probably stay off grid for 2 nights versus 1 night. Or maybe you only have a short drive to your next destination after using it on night 1, and you can't get the 1000 charged up fast enough for night 2. The 3000 is the better choice.
If you don't need much power, then maybe the smaller 1000 is best. It is lighter and easier to load and unload. In my situation, my style of travel has me mostly going from place to place. The very last thing I want to do is to go to a campground. I like to pull into a town around 5pm, take some photos, drink some wine, go to the best restaurant, and then go to sleep. Driving around the block and parking on a river and letting the GZ run the essentials is much better than having to worry about how much power I have left. The 3000 is more economical to me, and the experiences gained cannot be quantified. My travel has been significantly improved since I got the 3000.
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12-14-2019, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coasttocoast
The 3000 sells at 20 to 25 percent off depending on the sale, and you will have more power and reserves. You can stay off grid more easily and more often. I've already used it on 22 nights to park where I want and not deal with campgrounds saving about $1100. Then there are the saved fuel cost of not having to drive to a campground as well as the reduced mileage. I've been able to go places that I would not ever have gotten to go to had I needed the plug in.
Let's say you plan to stay in one place for more than one night and you use it for fridge and freezer power, and you are not plugged in. You can probably stay off grid for 2 nights versus 1 night. Or maybe you only have a short drive to your next destination after using it on night 1, and you can't get the 1000 charged up fast enough for night 2. The 3000 is the better choice.
If you don't need much power, then maybe the smaller 1000 is best. It is lighter and easier to load and unload. In my situation, my style of travel has me mostly going from place to place. The very last thing I want to do is to go to a campground. I like to pull into a town around 5pm, take some photos, drink some wine, go to the best restaurant, and then go to sleep. Driving around the block and parking on a river and letting the GZ run the essentials is much better than having to worry about how much power I have left. The 3000 is more economical to me, and the experiences gained cannot be quantified. My travel has been significantly improved since I got the 3000.
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Ahhh; understand. You have an Interstate, right? Can park pretty much anywhere with that camper van....with the trailer not so easy. Thanks for sharing the value proposition...after re-reading seems the GZ1000 may be the best solution for me. I am looking for just a GZ1000 without the solar, as I already have portable solar...again, thanks for sharing. I get it now!
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Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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12-17-2019, 10:22 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 20' Caravel
Dallas
, tx
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 72
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Harbor Freight has their 100 watt panels on sale for $149 with the coupon in the latest mailer. Four panels like this goal Zero, that you plug into your 2 batteries on board and run your rig.
https://www.harborfreight.com/100-wa...kit-63585.html
1000 watt lithium battery pack not necessarily needed, or can be purchased seperately.
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