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Old 10-25-2006, 08:36 AM   #1
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Generator?

We are new to the TT, having had MHs over the last 30+ years. I just assumed that TTs had generators. Am I wrong? Now, I think I am. If TTs don't come with a gererator, is there a place made for one?

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Old 10-25-2006, 08:42 AM   #2
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They typically do not have onboard generators (except fro some of the really high end toy haulers and 5th wheels)

Many TT people purchase external generators (Honda, Yamaha) connected to their shore power connection.
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Honda 2000 and 3000 series as well as Yamaha are popular choices.
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It Depends

Travel Trailers (TT) tend to be cheaper, smaller, and more flexable, some would say have fewer comforts, than Motor Homes (MH). There are TT's with built in generators but I would say a very small minority. A majority of MH's have generators from what I have seen. TT Boondockers tend to have generators. We are boondockers and have a generator even though we do not move very much. That is why I say it depends. Most generators I have seen are portable. Our generator is 600lbs, I would not mount it on my 25 footer. It goes in the pickup.
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Is there a place built in the A/S for a generator?

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Old 10-25-2006, 09:06 AM   #7
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Is there a place built in the A/S for a generator?

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I thought about installing one, a Honda, off the propane tanks, half in the belly area with a side acess door.
In my opinion the costs do not justify the benifits. Just chain a Honda to the bumper, fill it up, plug it in and start it up. Quiet, cheap and theft resistant.
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Hi Starflyte1 -- If pulling with a truck I'd suggest putting it in the pickup bed. Don't know that you want the gasoline inside an SUV with you, which makes the propane conversion even nicer. My 40# Honda eu2000i is not up to powering the A/C but I accept the compromise with more shady sites and our cooler weather up here. I don't like to lift it up and down a lot, but won't leave it sitting out if I'm gone from the campground for a while -- that's nearly $1000 sitting there with a 'Free' sign on it. It depends somewhat on whether people in neighboring sites are going to be around or are friendly (remember, we're the millionaires!).

40# isn't a huge weight but I can lift it readily enough. I'd have to adopt a different approach for the larger generators necessary to run an A/C. I wouldn't cut into the shell of an Airstream to mount a generator -- that could drag down resale later on. This whole issue really depends on whether you are camping at non-electric sites or are boondocking. I have found that most often I leave the generator at home. Reserving and planning ahead allows me to have an electric site about every time I go out -- then there's no issue about running the air conditioner.
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-- If pulling with a truck I'd suggest putting it in the pickup bed.

You know I was just thinking about this, what does everyone think about puting a mount in for the generator and propane tank in the bed of a pickup with a shell. If the door or window was open it should get enough air. Is this a bad plan?
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I know a few people run their portable propane powered gensets in their P/U beds with the lift gate open. As optional equipment, Airstreams in the '70's were available with a factory installed generator. I think the capacity was only large enough to recharge the batteries. Solar would also be an option as long as there's sun.
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You know I was just thinking about this, what does everyone think about puting a mount in for the generator and propane tank in the bed of a pickup with a shell. If the door or window was open it should get enough air. Is this a bad plan?

That's how I run mine ( honda 2000 ) , no problem that I have seen .
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We just bought a Surburban, so can't put it in the back. But, hope to figure out a way to carry and use a generator that is easy to use. We like to stop and have lunch or go into a place to eat and need the a/c for our Yorkies. I guess the most important use of the generator is for our Yorkies.
Living in South Florida makes a/c really necessary.

I am sure that something can be worked out. Thanks for all the replies and information!

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Rodney -- I've read about that being done fairly often. I would have to use my RV extension cord to reach. Sure makes more sense to me than having genset exhaust onboard an RV, within close distance of windows, etc. The imposition of noise and vibration on the trailer also would bug me, even with newer, quieter gensets like Honda or Yamaha.
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starflyte1 -- You've maybe read, but A/C startup load requires 30 amps (actually more like 24, but...). The compressor struggles and gradually destroys itself on startups if the amperage isn't there. You have to size your generator accordingly. My Honda eu2000i was selected with the understanding that it could not power an A/C unit.
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Regarding the pickup shell thing, there are many larger capacity generators that are much cheaper than the hondas, but I'm sure they are noisy as all get out. Could one build a vented box around them with insulation to cut down on the noise if one was enterprising enough. It thought about putting one in the back of my pickup (no shell) and locking it with a chain or something.

I'm sure those Honda EUs are great, but ouch, tough on the wallet
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I think Airstream, some time ago, did actually make a model that had a built in generator. It was a rare build....not too many out there. I could be wrong, but I do seem to recall seeing one owner here that had one. It's the only one I have ever seen and I believe it was factory.
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I did read about the one that was installed inside the A/S, vented and safely. If I could find someone to professionaly install one, that might be an answer. Another was installed on the front on either side of the tanks.

We have SOB B now that has the generator in the body. I don't know what difference it would be installed in an A/S.

Just thinking and please don't hesitate to tell me if I am thinking wrong!

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I think Airstream, some time ago, did actually make a model that had a built in generator. It was a rare build....not too many out there. I could be wrong, but I do seem to recall seeing one owner here that had one. It's the only one I have ever seen and I believe it was factory.
My '74 owners manual details the operation and specs for the factory installed generator. It was powered by a 1 cylinder Tecumseh propane powered engine that was remotely started from the living room using a timer up to 3 hours. It was a DC generator used for battery charging. It was made by Onan.
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Have been reading about the new (?) Onan Juice Generator. It weighs 360 lbs. How much extra weight can be put on the tounge? I think that I read that nothing could be put on the back.

It is in a box that looks like a Stow-away.

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Having any running generator turning the Airstream shell into a resonance chamber soured me on making a new compartment for a secure generator install - I was intending to use a hushed suitcase style generator but now just having a aluminum box streamlined under shell just for storage is on my wish list.

I have a Kipor 2600 watt silenced inverter that weighs in just under 60 pounds and is very quiet but when running under load will shake the ground with low frequency vibtations similar to a freight locomotive rolling by at 3mph - they attenuate the higher nuisance sounds into lower one that don't bother our ears as much...
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