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08-29-2016, 03:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanB
If I need the carb cleaned out or am not sure if the invertor board is fried, where to I take the unit too? Does a trained "champion" shop exist with driving distance?
What if I break the off switch and need a replacement? Where do I go get it?
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It doesn't get any easier than this (directly from the Champion website posted previously)
Need a replacement part? Call our customer service department at 1-877-338-0999
Their website also has helful videos, such as this one explaining how to repair a broken recoil starter rope:
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08-29-2016, 05:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxite
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I was looking hard at this one. The dual fuel doesn't really interest me, but the size and price are right.
Decisions, decisions....
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08-29-2016, 07:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Gold Country
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 334
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We've used our Smarter Tools generator for a little over a year and have been happy with it. One of the reasons I choose it over the other off brands is that it has the Yamaha engine. Though at 2000 watts, it does not run the AC.
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08-29-2016, 07:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCStreamer
I was looking hard at this one. The dual fuel doesn't really interest me, but the size and price are right.
Decisions, decisions....
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They have a gasoline-only version of the same generator. Check the website. You can buy from Costco and they'll ship to your door, usually free shipping.
Caution: Do not store ANY brand of generator with automobile/ethanol gasoline in the carburetors. It WILL ruin it.
Use non-ethanol w/stabilizer, or better yet, for long-term, ready-use storage, use aviation gasoline from your local airport. Just don't use that stuff in your auto.
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08-29-2016, 07:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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[QUOTE=Naper;1842672 Its a small thing but the Yamaha has a fuel shut off (Honda may have it by now) To avoid any carb problems I shut off the gas and let it run out.[/QUOTE]
That is not a small thing, it's a distinct advantage, IMO.
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2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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08-30-2016, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,364
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Well, my plans have been thwarted. I took out the tape measure and measured my parking space, and it's 215" long. Not long enough for any 1/2 ton truck. So I'm stuck with my TV, and my plan of running a genny in the bed has been dashed.
But this has been an interesting discussion nonetheless. I'm still planning on buying a genny but now I'm not restricted by the 20" truck bed. But I'll have to take it out of my truck every time I want to use it, so weight becomes a factor.
Sigh.
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08-30-2016, 09:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 31' Classic
Pleasant Plains
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 55
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I have a Champion 2000W unit and have been satisfied with the performance and noise level. I doubt that it would run my air conditioner and haven't tried. It was half the price of the similar sized Honda.
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2005, 31 ft. Classic - 2008 Ford F250
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08-30-2016, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Thanks for the discussion. Generally we do not travel with a generator, but it would be nice to do some no hookup rally events. An inexpensive LPG powered generator that would run the AC coul be a deal maker. Travel safe. Pat
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09-14-2016, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Laredo
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,342
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I ended up buying a gently used Honda 2000 and plan to convert it to LP using the Century conversion kit.
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09-21-2016, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
Westlake Village
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 508
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Champion 2800 duel fuel. Running off TT LP, leave in truck bed with open rear tonneau section for air/exhaust. 1/2 noise, secure, clean and quiet !
PS. With gen off, db level was 65 just nature.
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Vantair
2005 25ft International CCD SS
2020 GMC Sierra Denali Diesel 2500 4X4 10 spd 3.43 Int sway/tow controller
1981 Honda Trail CT110 1X0..no sway control
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09-22-2016, 06:50 PM
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New Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Burnet
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3
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I've been running the Champion 3100 inverter for a year now. Sits in the bed of my pick up, plugged into the
front of my 2015 - 25FB. Couldn't be happier.......remote is great and runs the 15kw Dometic AC with no problem.
Want to turn off or start from the couch or bed, just hit the remote. $950.00 well spent.
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09-23-2016, 08:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
Westlake Village
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 508
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Champion 2800 duel fuel is 20lbs heavier, contains start battery, 500 running watts better, 500.00 less cost and has a 30 amp plug. Compared to the Yamaha 2400 which doesn't but also a great unit.
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Vantair
2005 25ft International CCD SS
2020 GMC Sierra Denali Diesel 2500 4X4 10 spd 3.43 Int sway/tow controller
1981 Honda Trail CT110 1X0..no sway control
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09-23-2016, 09:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Hartsburg
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 465
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I just ordered the Champion 2800 dual fuel mentioned by Vantair on sale at Costco.com for $850. Will report back in a couple of weeks!
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2016 27' FC FB with 600 W solar
2016 Ford F150 EcoBoost
Equalizer Hitch
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09-23-2016, 12:09 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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We just ordered the higher watt Champion dual fuel version (model # 100263). It is suppose to do 3100W continuous and 3400 peak with gas. I think it was about 300 watts less output on propane. I have a Powerhorse 2000W, so I will do some comparisons between the two once it arrives. The dual fuel and low profile (only 3000+ inverter that I could find to fit under my bed cover) won me over.
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09-23-2016, 12:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 762
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Had my champion 3100W electric start for about 18months. It hasn't missed a beat. Highlight recommended.
Will probably convert to use propane in the near future...
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09-23-2016, 01:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Mocksville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 232
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsmblue
Had my champion 3100W electric start for about 18months. It hasn't missed a beat. Highlight recommended.
Will probably convert to use propane in the near future...
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I was surprised how good the reviews were by people that actually owned the Champions. I admit to originally wanting the Honda EU3000is, but it would not fit under my bed cover and I really like the propane option on the Champion from the factory.
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09-23-2016, 03:12 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 26
Dana Point
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 46
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Kudos to Airforums. I bought the generator in August and just saw that it was on sale. Costco is sending me a credit. I have not really run the generator yet.
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09-23-2016, 04:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' International CCD
Westlake Village
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Culp
Kudos to Airforums. I bought the generator in August and just saw that it was on sale. Costco is sending me a credit. I have not really run the generator yet.
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Same results here. Costco cheerfully issued credit in September although bought in August (their own 30 day price guarantee policy) .
Have 7 happy hours on the gen so far.
(Another 150.00 worth of thanks out to Bourbonshot on forums who alerted us to the price drop!)
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Vantair
2005 25ft International CCD SS
2020 GMC Sierra Denali Diesel 2500 4X4 10 spd 3.43 Int sway/tow controller
1981 Honda Trail CT110 1X0..no sway control
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09-23-2016, 06:10 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1960 28' Ambassador
Libertyville
, Illinois
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 182
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I bought a Champion 3500/4000 that included the optional wheel kit for $249.00 at Blains Farm and Fleet. I bought it to run power tools to repair my dock. However, I was thrilled when I could plug in my camper and run the A/C on two consecutive 90 degree days. Very happy customer!
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10-05-2016, 06:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
Decatur
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 691
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Yamaha built in China
I had made up my mind to purchase a 2000 watt invertor generator and strongly leaning towards the Yamaha. I then read that they are now made in China, confirmed by an email to Yamaha. I also have read the Honda is being made in Taiwan, although I have not officially confirmed that. So I guess the search now will be for price, supported by consumer feedback. The Champion is looking like a better alternative, although there are several Chinese makes to choose from.
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