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Old 01-09-2021, 11:10 AM   #1
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Champion 2500 Dual Fuel Inverter/Generator

Anyone have data on the new Champion 2500 Dual Fuel Inverter/Generator? Friend just picked one up at Camping World for $650, said it weighs 39lbs, is quiet as the Honda, and has impressive specs for running his 13500AC. He was adding oil when I last talked with him this morning...

Anyone in the Austin area interested in my "brand new" Honda2200 from Genconnex with propane conversion and 3 year warranty?
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I have been researching gennies for the past three months (trying to decide if I'll service the non-running Onan in the Argosy or just purchase a new one). That Champion gets good reviews, but the Honda still seems more dependable; though, as you know, you pay through the nose at purchase time. I am leaning towards taking my chances with one of the cheaper brands, since they get nearly the same reviews, seem to be about the same dB level, and if they break, you can pretty much buy another for the initial price you pay with a Honda.
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I have been researching gennies for the past three months (trying to decide if I'll service the non-running Onan in the Argosy or just purchase a new one). That Champion gets good reviews, but the Honda still seems more dependable; though, as you know, you pay through the nose at purchase time. I am leaning towards taking my chances with one of the cheaper brands, since they get nearly the same reviews, seem to be about the same dB level, and if they break, you can pretty much buy another for the initial price you pay with a Honda.
So, my friend who purchased the new Champion 2500 Dual Fuel fired it up yesterday and ran some "tests" on the specs. He said it fired right up after adding oil, registered 53db noise on full power at 23', per spec, and dropped to 47db when he turned on Eco mode. Also said weight indeed came in at 39.4lbs. No AC yet...
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I have been researching gennies for the past three months (trying to decide if I'll service the non-running Onan in the Argosy or just purchase a new one). That Champion gets good reviews, but the Honda still seems more dependable; though, as you know, you pay through the nose at purchase time. I am leaning towards taking my chances with one of the cheaper brands, since they get nearly the same reviews, seem to be about the same dB level, and if they break, you can pretty much buy another for the initial price you pay with a Honda.

If you're a Costco member I'd highly encourage you to take a look at their generator options online. We went with two of the off-brand gennies that use the Yamaha engine. They've performed flawlessly over the past year. They're covered under Costco's unconditional guarantee so if we ever have issues that aren't easily fixed they can go back and we get a refund. That peace of mind, plus the Yamaha engine made us comfortable going with an off brand.
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We have the 3400 dual fuel model (100lb) which does indeed run our 135k AC w/o an easy start. However, this NEW model does not appear to have the 30amp RV plug...
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$650 ... heck, that's half the price of the Honda, once you get it set up to run propane.

How are the reviews on the Champion?
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I gave away a brand new Champion that never ran more than a few minutes, replacing the carburetor at an authorized service center did not fix the problem nor did disconnecting low oil protection. Champion tech support was quite slow. Didn't need the aggravation, bought a Generac GP3000i but just run on gas.
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I own both a Champion and a Honda. Champion runs fine but is not a Honda. The Honda is better built and runs much quieter.
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So, my friend who purchased the new Champion 2500 Dual Fuel fired it up yesterday and ran some "tests" on the specs. He said it fired right up after adding oil, registered 53db noise on full power at 23', per spec, and dropped to 47db when he turned on Eco mode. Also said weight indeed came in at 39.4lbs. No AC yet...

I think I'm gonna put it on my top five possibilities list... maybe top three.
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We have the 3400 dual fuel model (100lb) which does indeed run our 135k AC w/o an easy start. However, this NEW model does not appear to have the 30amp RV plug...
It has a 20A plug. I actually have the Honda with only 15 a & 20A plug; no 30A plug, and it works well with the propane for both my ACs's 13000 and 15000. I do have Easystart on my 15000AC. My new Honda from Genconnex is great especially after lugging my Champion 3400 around past 3 years...95 lbs vs 45 lbs (Honda) is the reason I got it....but, after $1400 recently to get the Honda, here we are...a Champion with better specs then the Honda, 39lbs vs 45, propane or gas, and half the price from Genconnex! You think my wife is happy I got the Honda few weeks ago? (took me 2 weeks to get a buyer on my Champion, by the way...$550 was best I could get for it...I did pay $800 3 years ago...
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https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Powe.../dp/B08JSCLXXT


While it's not dual fuel, this one has a little more power (4250 starting, 3500 running- so you could actually use the microwave and a/c at the same time) but more importantly, a remote start. It seems like the remote would be more valuable than dual fuel when it's freezing outside or pouring down rain. It would also be nice to be able to turn on the genny while driving to get the roof top A/C going.


It's open frame rated 67dB (I think I'll probably put some more insulation in the compartment), around 90 pounds, and 18"x17.5"x20.5" (actual measurement from an owner), so it should easily fit in the rear compartment where the Onan was, with plenty of room to spare.


I have a second hard fuel line from the main tank sender. I think I'll probably put a cheap fuel pump on the line to fill the holding tank, but it would be nice if the unit could actually pull fuel on it's own... I think I read that some of the Honda's can do that, and be plumbed directly to the main tank.
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If you're a Costco member I'd highly encourage you to take a look at their generator options online. We went with two of the off-brand gennies that use the Yamaha engine. They've performed flawlessly over the past year. They're covered under Costco's unconditional guarantee so if we ever have issues that aren't easily fixed they can go back and we get a refund. That peace of mind, plus the Yamaha engine made us comfortable going with an off brand.

Interesting. I hadn't seen these. I'll check them out. Thanks for the heads up.
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We have the 3400 dual fuel model (100lb) which does indeed run our 135k AC w/o an easy start. However, this NEW model does not appear to have the 30amp RV plug...
I was able to run either of my AC's without the Easystart with my Champion Duall Fuel..but I installed one anyway on my 15000 unit. At the time, Mateo at Microair had been the tech who was testing the Easystart with Honda, Yamaha, Champion, others...he told me the 3400DualFuel Champion was great without the Easystart; the Champion 2000 I had purchased earlier would not work with or without. He is gone, I believe...

Bottom line: Champion 3400 Dual Fuel worked great for me last few years; no issues...electric start each time, and ran either AC unit with no issues below 7k altitude. My only 2 issues was the 95lb weight and I did not like the external manifold clipped on to the handle when using propane. It worked fine however, and it fit fine under my hard-bed cover also.
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There seem to be a LOT of variations on the Champion products. I actually found another Amazon link for a dual fuel unit with basically the same power (4375/3500), calling it "RV ready" (I think this just means a 30amp plug), electric start, and the price is quite a bit less at $509. I assume with "electric start" I could figure out how to run a line so I could mount a switch on my dash.



https://www.amazon.com/Champion-3500...0322012&sr=8-4


The biggest reason I've been waiting to long to pull the trigger is every time I look, I seem to find five more things that could be in the running. And who knows what is what at this point. Also, the prices (often using the exact same link) vary from day to day, which is a little unnerving with Amazon's penchant for allowing gray market items.


The reviews are also ALL OVER the place (1 star to 5 star).
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If you're a Costco member I'd highly encourage you to take a look at their generator options online. We went with two of the off-brand gennies that use the Yamaha engine. They've performed flawlessly over the past year. They're covered under Costco's unconditional guarantee so if we ever have issues that aren't easily fixed they can go back and we get a refund. That peace of mind, plus the Yamaha engine made us comfortable going with an off brand.

Man... that Costco Yamaha is on sale (only until tomorrow!) for $100 off making it $399 for an 1800W continuous unit (2300W peak).



https://www.costco.com/a-ipower-powe...100653776.html



Supposedly even quieter than the Honda (52 dB)?
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I have had two Tri-fuel Yamaha gennys from US Carb and never a problem. They are great to deal with having units and conversions on sale occasionally. Usually the conversion is almost free with the gennys when on sale.
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I am curious what propane conversion fuel consumption has been. I'm guessing less output power than gas as well. What have you seen regarding this? Thanks in advance
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We just bought the Champion 3400 Dual Fuel, after having used two Hondas: https://www.championpowerequipment.c...fuel-inverter/

It is quieter, electric start and I attached it via quick-connect to the BBQ low pressure propane port and it runs smooth.

It is heavier but comes with wheels and I find it easier to deal with. Very satisfied!
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We just bought the Champion 3400 Dual Fuel, after having used two Hondas: https://www.championpowerequipment.c...fuel-inverter/

It is quieter, electric start and I attached it via quick-connect to the BBQ low pressure propane port and it runs smooth.

It is heavier but comes with wheels and I find it easier to deal with. Very satisfied!
Thanks for that link and for your review. I’m really thinking about this one. Did it come with the quick connect hose, or did you have to purchase that separately?
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