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04-01-2010, 07:38 PM
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1955 22' Safari
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running lights
Tested my running lights by running a line from positive side of battery to lights, then grounded the battery to shell and everything work, all running lights came on. My question is how does one hook-up running lights to the TV (7 pin bargman cable)..............thanks
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04-01-2010, 09:06 PM
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1995 30' Excella
Logan
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Maybe this will help. If you still have questions, let me know.
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04-01-2010, 09:38 PM
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Wire them to the green wire on the 7 pin.
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04-02-2010, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soldiermedic
Wire them to the green wire on the 7 pin.
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Thanks, everthing is working now, however, when the running lights are switched on using the TV the turn singal lights become very weak.
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04-02-2010, 07:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
Thanks, everthing is working now, however, when the running lights are switched on using the TV the turn singal lights become very weak.
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Sounds like you don't have a good ground from the Airstream to the TV. Hard to say without standing there to see what you see.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
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04-02-2010, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Sounds like you don't have a good ground from the Airstream to the TV. Hard to say without standing there to see what you see.
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When I turn the running lights off, turn siginal lights are ok........
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04-02-2010, 08:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
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Is the engine running on your TV? If the lights get brighter with the engine running, you have a voltage drop problem. Could be a marginal battery, bad connection(s) at the battery, bad connection(s) at the plug for the trailer. Since the tail lights also come on with the running lights. Are you sure that the turn signal lights are weaker or just being masked by the tail lights being on. With one turn signal on, step on the brakes and see if there is a difference in brightness between the brake light on one side and the turn signal on the other. Unless you have amber turn signals which are totally separate from the brake lights. The same filament is used for the brake and turn lights. I'd be cleaning bsttery terminals and trailer connectors and checking for lose connections before buying anything.
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04-02-2010, 09:48 AM
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1980 31' Excella II
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This is probably a very common ground problem between the TV and the A/S. If the lights (running and turn signals) work well with the trailer isolated from the TV. There could be another problem that is really hard to discover and easy to fix. A friend of mine who happens to be a Ham operator with an advanced license and excellent electrical knowledge was having the same problem as described with good running lights and weak turn signals. He went over every inch of his T/V and trailer and was losing sleep becuause he could not troubleshoot the problem and solve it. He asked me to take a look at it. I knew what he had done up to that time and it was everything I would have done but to help him out I said ok. The first thing I looked at was the lights themselves I wanted to make sure there wasn't some fault, moisture broken or cracked recepticle, etc. Took the lense off and pulled the bulb on one side and discovered that the bulb had been installed incorrectly. Those are double filament bulbs with a high and low post on the base. Somehow the bulb was jammed in with the posts reversed. Don't know how it happened or how he managed to do it to both the right and left sides. But it is a simple fix tough to find like most electrical problems.
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04-02-2010, 09:52 AM
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1955 22' Safari
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Starting over
1) 2008 GM TV with towing package, works great with our other trailer
2) The bargman cable is brand new.
3) This is a full restoration with interior panels off with all new wiring.
And this is how I have it hook-up so far:
1) Brown wire....Right Stop & Turn....one wire to bargman brown wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
2) Red wire.......Left Stop & Turn......one wire to bargman red wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
3) Green wire....Tail & License and Running lights.........all wire's to green bargman
4) Black wire.....Battery Charge.....one wire to positive battery post and to bargman black wire battery, negative post ground to shell
5) Blue wire ......Electric Brake.......haven't hook-up yet
6) Yellow wire....Center Auxiliary.....haven't hook-up yet and don't know what in the hell it is.
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04-02-2010, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
Starting over
1) 2008 GM TV with towing package, works great with our other trailer
2) The bargman cable is brand new.
3) This is a full restoration with interior panels off with all new wiring.
And this is how I have it hook-up so far:
1) Brown wire....Right Stop & Turn....one wire to bargman brown wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
2) Red wire.......Left Stop & Turn......one wire to bargman red wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
3) Green wire....Tail & License and Running lights.........all wire's to green bargman
4) Black wire.....Battery Charge.....one wire to positive battery post and to bargman black wire battery, negative post ground to shell
5) Blue wire ......Electric Brake.......haven't hook-up yet
6) Yellow wire....Center Auxiliary.....haven't hook-up yet and don't know what in the hell it is.
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Which Airstream is this and did you rewire the trailer or just attach a new 7-pin connector?
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
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04-02-2010, 10:25 AM
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1955 22' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Which Airstream is this and did you rewire the trailer or just attach a new 7-pin connector?
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This is a full restoration with interior panels off with all new wiring.
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04-02-2010, 10:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
Starting over
1) 2008 GM TV with towing package, works great with our other trailer
2) The bargman cable is brand new.
3) This is a full restoration with interior panels off with all new wiring.
And this is how I have it hook-up so far:
1) Brown wire....Right Stop & Turn....one wire to bargman brown wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
2) Red wire.......Left Stop & Turn......one wire to bargman red wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
3) Green wire....Tail & License and Running lights.........all wire's to green bargman
4) Black wire.....Battery Charge.....one wire to positive battery post and to bargman black wire battery, negative post ground to shell
5) Blue wire ......Electric Brake.......haven't hook-up yet
6) Yellow wire....Center Auxiliary.....haven't hook-up yet and don't know what in the hell it is.
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Brown wire running lights
Green wire right turn and brake
Yellow wire left turn and brake
Take a look here. etrailer.com | Trailer Wiring Diagrams. Scroll down for 7-way.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
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04-02-2010, 11:10 AM
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1955 22' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
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Wrong wiring diagram, below is the correct one for my job, thanks anyway......
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04-02-2010, 11:42 AM
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2010 25' FB International
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Hubby is having trouble with brake lights and turn signals. I hope this info will help him determine the problem so we can get this show on the road!
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04-02-2010, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
1) Brown wire....Right Stop & Turn....one wire to bargman brown wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
2) Red wire.......Left Stop & Turn......one wire to bargman red wire and the other to the bargman white common ground
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On my 53, I run the red and brown wire to their respective lights, but the grounding of the lights come from attaching the fixture to the shell. I guess the lights are different.
Steve
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04-02-2010, 12:11 PM
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1955 22' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soldiermedic
On my 53, I run the red and brown wire to their respective lights, but the grounding of the lights come from attaching the fixture to the shell. I guess the lights are different.
Steve
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I think you just solved one of my problems, I was running ground to the bargman common ground when I should be grounding the light right to the shell, will give it a try..........thanks
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04-02-2010, 12:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
Wrong wiring diagram, below is the correct one for my job, thanks anyway......
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Hard to wire over the Internet. Just curios, what is the diagram from?
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
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04-02-2010, 12:23 PM
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1955 22' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Hard to wire over the Internet. Just curios, what is the diagram from?
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Sure
Bargman 7-Way Cable
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04-02-2010, 12:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toastie
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Is the Chevy side wired by you or the factory? I'm concerned that two different standards are being used.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
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04-02-2010, 12:43 PM
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1955 22' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Is the Chevy side wired by you or the factory? I'm concerned that two different standards are being used.
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