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05-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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Recessed Light Installation
I thought I’d post some pics of my recently completed recessed lighting project. I installed ten 20w low voltage lights ( http://www.ylighting.com/mod88brrounb.html ). The six in the kitchen area are on the original circuit for the overhead kitchen light and the four in the living room area are on the circuit for the original light there.
The project was pretty straight forward. My biggest hurdle was placement; making sure I had them evenly spaced while avoiding wiring and the lateral ribs. Once I was certain of the placement, I used a drill mounted hole saw to cut the holes. That went very well (always remember to be careful to not go so deep that you drill through the outer skin  )! I used electrical “fish tape” to fish the wires to the center ceiling panel area. I could access this area by pulling down on the skin an inch or two where the cut-outs for the ceiling vents are. I also used the a/c cutout for access.
The actual installation of the lights was very easy. They just sort of “snap” in place. I installed a double switch from Sailor Sam’s just inside the main door behind the stove. I couldn’t ask for better lighting! The amount of light is perfect! I’ve been planning this project for years and finally it’s done!
Curt
P.S. No, I don't like my pink curtains!
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05-11-2011, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Beautiful job! Looks like a pro did it. Nice!
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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05-11-2011, 05:24 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2002 31' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 442
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VERY clean; I like it!
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05-11-2011, 06:13 PM
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Rivet Master 

2011 31' Classic
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,066
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Way Cool! More guts than I have to drill into your lovely AS. Nice job.
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2011 31' Classic Ltd. - The Silver Otter III
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05-11-2011, 07:09 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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Thanks, guys! It took me 5 years to get up the nerve!  !
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05-11-2011, 07:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,403
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It looks nice. So do I read that the power is 12 volt from the coach battery?
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05-11-2011, 08:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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Yes, they're wired into the original 12V lighting circuit.
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05-11-2011, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somefun
Yes, they're wired into the original 12V lighting circuit.
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That makes it better yet. Thanks!
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05-11-2011, 08:27 PM
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lucca53
1973 31' Excella 500
2004 22' Safari
2006 25' Safari
napa
, California
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 99
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I have the same color curtains! they work for now lol
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05-11-2011, 08:43 PM
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Rivet Master 
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,491
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Somefun,
Those lights look great!
How much clearance was there from the top of the light to the the outside skin. Did you push them into the insulation or did you have to remove some?
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05-12-2011, 12:13 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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There's maybe a half inch or so between the top of the light housing and the outer skin. The insulation was pretty loose and doesn't get in the way. I didn't remove any.
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05-13-2011, 09:25 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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I was looking at the information on the lights. It says " Not for ceiling use". My guess is that this is due to heat generation. Has this ever become an issue ????? Nice installation. I wonder if they have a LED unit that would reduce heat buildup ????
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05-14-2011, 12:53 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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Yes, I saw that warning too. It might be because of heat, or it could be because of size... they wouldn't work with 1/2" drywall because they're not very deep. I considered all of that and thought if they were made for cabinet or display lighting, how would heat be any less of an issue? I don't think it said anywhere not to enclose them (but I could be wrong about that). Anyway, I'm not concerned about any fire risk in the Airstream. They are very well constructed with metal, glass and ceramic components. It's only been about a week since I installed them, so time will tell! So far so good!
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05-14-2011, 12:56 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1974 27' Overlander
Puyallup
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 124
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And yes, LEDs woud be much cooler and a good choice, I think. I actually purchased mine in 2005 (see what I mean about taking forever on this project? lol), and LEDs weren't available then.
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10-11-2011, 12:14 AM
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New Member
Dalmeny
, Saskatchewan
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Your lights look Great. Did you have much trouble running the wires with a fish tape in the ceiling? Was it much of a fight with the ceiling to get the wires to each location?
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01-12-2013, 11:18 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1974 31' Sovereign
Brevard
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
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May I ask what brand lights you used. I am currently restoring an International Land Yacht and want to put in recessed lighs. Your setup looks great. Did you have to worry about heat against the insulation?
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08-02-2019, 01:23 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
Whistler
, British Columbia
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davew
Your lights look Great. Did you have much trouble running the wires with a fish tape in the ceiling? Was it much of a fight with the ceiling to get the wires to each location?
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I would also like to know this. How did you wire them up?
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02-06-2022, 12:14 PM
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Rivet Master 
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,480
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Hi all,
I realize this post is fairly old but I stumbled upon it while trying to confirm being able to fish wires from recessed/puck lights through ribs WITHOUT removing the skins.... Seems somefun was able to do so - though not mentioned specifically.
I found this youtube video which also mentions being able to fish wires through openings in the ribs. Course, there are plenty of posts saying there are not openings in the ribs. Maybe it depends on year/ model (or just luck).
https://youtu.be/NElZga93MiU
Anyone have experience adding recessed LED lights in the ceiling without removing the skins or center panel in a 1973 Overlander?
Thanks -
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2006 F-150 Lariat QuadCrew
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02-07-2022, 12:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
Whistler
, British Columbia
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 26
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I did it.
There are two channels in the center roof of the airstream. These channels are where the wiring of your airstream is. Google photos of airstreams without the skins on and you will be able to see them.
I used a wire fishing line to push the wiring through those channels. In some areas where it was more difficult, I drilled small holes that were the same size as metal plugs you can buy. Since I painted my skins drilling a hole and painting over the inserted plug was not a big deal. It turned out great and I did lights the entire length of the airstream.
You may need an electrician with pro fishing skills to help you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkill
Hi all,
I realize this post is fairly old but I stumbled upon it while trying to confirm being able to fish wires from recessed/puck lights through ribs WITHOUT removing the skins.... Seems somefun was able to do so - though not mentioned specifically.
I found this youtube video which also mentions being able to fish wires through openings in the ribs. Course, there are plenty of posts saying there are not openings in the ribs. Maybe it depends on year/ model (or just luck).
https://youtu.be/NElZga93MiU
Anyone have experience adding recessed LED lights in the ceiling without removing the skins or center panel in a 1973 Overlander?
Thanks -
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