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11-11-2016, 07:20 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Queen Creek
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Lighted Switches
The two switches by the door on the 2017 FC operate two outside lights, one by the steps and a scare light on the side of the coach. When inside the coach, the lights cannot be seen, so leaving the lights on by accident is possible. Has anyone installed lighted switches to act as a "tell-tale" when the switches are on? There is a center blank in the switch cover that could be used for leds as indicators.
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11-11-2016, 07:50 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Classic FB
Fredericksburg
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What I did to those two switches as well as the switches that turn on my backup camera and the water pump is hook up an LED to output side of the switch with one lead of the LED and to ground with the other so that the LED comes on when the switch is activated. For the two switches by the door, I left the LED's behind the switch plate but can still see the glow when the LED is on.
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11-11-2016, 01:27 PM
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1968 26' Overlander
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Great idea. I think I'll do that with my scare light, as well.
Thanks,
Roy
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01-13-2017, 06:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan guy
What I did to those two switches as well as the switches that turn on my backup camera and the water pump is hook up an LED to output side of the switch with one lead of the LED and to ground with the other so that the LED comes on when the switch is activated. For the two switches by the door, I left the LED's behind the switch plate but can still see the glow when the LED is on.
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Can you provide photos and info on LEDs you used?
DBLee and Southern Belle on the road
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01-13-2017, 08:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Classic FB
Fredericksburg
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I did not take photos when I installed the LED's. I also don't remember where I purchased them other than it was online. You just need to look online for single leds with a built-in resistor. I think I bought a pack of 12 for very little money but have given the rest away to others.
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01-14-2017, 05:46 PM
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2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
, Arkansas
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I ordered some 12v marine rocker switches with red LED. (Come in several different LED colors) Will these work? I would like to replace the switches for the step, scare, awning, and general lighting all located just inside the entry.
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01-14-2017, 07:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Classic FB
Fredericksburg
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Those marine switches should work. They will certainly serve as reminder that they are on.
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01-14-2017, 07:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Classic FB
Fredericksburg
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I forget to mention that they may not work for two way switches.
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01-14-2017, 07:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 16' Bambi
2021 22' Bambi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishByFly
I ordered some 12v marine rocker switches with red LED. (Come in several different LED colors) Will these work? I would like to replace the switches for the step, scare, awning, and general lighting all located just inside the entry.
Attachment 278145
Attachment 278146
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Those are Contura switches. I would suggest you buy the plug in harness, as you will need to make jumpers to make the switch lights work, unless AS used the same style switch which might allow the original harness to work.
We just finished wiring our service truck accessories using those same switches.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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01-14-2017, 08:34 PM
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2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
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In a similar vein, I got annoyed that I couldn't tell /remember which switch was for inside and which was for outside.
And in the bathroom which was the light and which was the water heater.
For $3 I got some of the small circular silicone sticker "bumpers" that you can put on a cabinet door to keep it from slamming.
Put these on the bathroom light switch, and the interior light switch.
Now I know by "feel" which switch is which.
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01-23-2017, 01:55 PM
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2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
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I completed install of LEDs on the entrance switches and HWH switches. Looks good to me but wife may have other thoughts if she thinks they're too bright at night. More to follow
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01-24-2017, 09:33 AM
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2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
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I'm returning my rocker switches. Even though the switches would require a different carrier to mount and adjustment to wire connectors, the dimmer switches could not replace with the rocker switch as the switch is intergrated with the dimmer control. Just too many hurdles to address. I'm back to the recommended addition of LEDs. Any specifics for this would be appreciated.
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01-25-2017, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishByFly
I'm returning my rocker switches. Even though the switches would require a different carrier to mount and adjustment to wire connectors, the dimmer switches could not replace with the rocker switch as the switch is intergrated with the dimmer control. Just too many hurdles to address. I'm back to the recommended addition of LEDs. Any specifics for this would be appreciated.
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I installed leds in several switches in AS, including the ones with the dimmer control. The led is connected to the output side of the switch and other is connected to a ground. For the front switches, ground was in the ones with the dimmer control. I then drilled a hole above or besides the switch and used a LED holder to insert into the hole. That is it. It's a good bit of work but I'm pleased so far.
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08-06-2017, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
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Colonel, I followed your LED indicator install. We seem to forget the step and scare lights are on and we have been warned about the awning LEDs. I need a simple way to see at the switches when these were on.
I bought 3mm 12v LEDs and metal holders. Didn't use the holders as the lights fit snuggle.
For the water heater switches, I went with the lighted Switch Aware rocker switch. This is a direct replacement of the actual switch. Straight forward replacement and an added install of the ground wire.
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08-07-2017, 06:15 AM
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2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
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Looks good. A little bright at night but that helps call attention to the light left on.
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08-17-2017, 05:24 PM
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2012 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Sparks
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Found the direct replacement lighted switch. $5.74 each. Two with shipping was only $14.87
A short length of wire and a couple of crimp on ends, done!
https://pdxrvwholesale.com/products/...d-switch-12045
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08-19-2017, 01:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
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We used these replacement lighted switched for our water heater (gas and electric switches). Easy replacement. Our 3mm LED indicators costed less than a dollar each. Did have to by 10 LEDs.
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06-13-2021, 03:16 PM
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2020 30 Globetrotter
Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishByFly
Colonel, I followed your LED indicator install. We seem to forget the step and scare lights are on and we have been warned about the awning LEDs. I need a simple way to see at the switches when these were on.
I bought 3mm 12v LEDs and metal holders. Didn't use the holders as the lights fit snuggle.
Attachment 291470
For the water heater switches, I went with the lighted Switch Aware rocker switch. This is a direct replacement of the actual switch. Straight forward replacement and an added install of the ground wire.
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Thanks for this. Do you remember how/where you got the ground from?
Mike
2020 Globetrotter 30RB
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06-13-2021, 09:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
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Mike, if I recall, I grounded the lights to the frame attaching a wire to a cabinet screw that goes into one of the ribs. Im dont have immediate access to our trailer but will be glad to take a look to refresh my memory.
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06-13-2021, 09:39 PM
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2012 Avenue Coach
Corpus Christi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishByFly
Mike, if I recall, I grounded the lights to the frame attaching a wire to a cabinet screw that goes into one of the ribs. I’m don’t have immediate access to our trailer but will be glad to take a look to refresh my memory.
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You're probably recalling correctly. The few switches I converted to lighted ones (for confirmation when they are on & off) I grounded to the metal skin of my class b van. This was necessary since the original unlighted switch had no ground wire and was on the opposite side of the van as the power center. I thought briefly about using a ground wire on a nearby display monitor, but figured why chance screwing something up.
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