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01-13-2011, 03:47 PM
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Streamin'
1995 30' Cutter Bus LE
Madison
, South Dakota
Join Date: Nov 2008
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LED light upgrade
I am upgrading my lights to LEDs. I am stuck on the Aisle light fixtures. I can’t figure out how to get the old lamp out of the socket to replace it with the LED 194 lamp.
I can’t get my fingers in there and I am afraid to try with the needle nose pliers and break the glass bulb.
Anybody have any ideas?
Yes I know, how do you change a light bulb?… It has to want to change…
Here are some pictures (I hope):
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01-13-2011, 03:54 PM
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Rivet Master 
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
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As long as the power is off dont worry about breaking the bulb. {God hates a coward}
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01-13-2011, 04:00 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 11,085
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Wrap a couple rubber bands around the tips of some needle nos pliers for grip and gently remove bulb.
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01-13-2011, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master 
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,007
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Tubing
Can you tell if it a twist out bulb. If so get a piece of soft rubber tubing, push it onto the bulb; then twist and see if it works. It doesn't have to slip completely over the bulb; it just needs to grab it.
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01-14-2011, 10:18 AM
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Streamin'
1995 30' Cutter Bus LE
Madison
, South Dakota
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 293
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Thanks for the replies. I am worried about breaking the bulb because I don't know how I would get the bottom of the bulb out of the socket. The 194 lamp is the push in type but the tubing idea is a good one.
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01-14-2011, 04:48 PM
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Rivet Master 
1993 33' Land Yacht
Midland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Bill,how many lights are you changing to the LEDs? Do you think they give off as much light as original lights, and where did you get them? How pricey? Just wondering I see quite a few posts about changing over to them, trying to decide if its worth it. THANKS
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01-15-2011, 05:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1969 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarnacleBill
Thanks for the replies. I am worried about breaking the bulb because I don't know how I would get the bottom of the bulb out of the socket. The 194 lamp is the push in type but the tubing idea is a good one.
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I read once that you could use a carrot inserted into the base of a broken light to push it and twist it out. ????? Maybe it'll work.
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01-15-2011, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master 
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breadbug
I read once that you could use a carrot inserted into the base of a broken light to push it and twist it out. ????? Maybe it'll work.
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Sounds like a good idea, but I would not eat that carrot,
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01-15-2011, 05:11 PM
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and my trusty lab Helga
1972 29' Ambassador
1985 32' Excella
Cowiche
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 32
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I found on line they have replacement led bars in place of the flouresent ones and they are supose to be brighter. My 85 has the option of flouresent lights.
Hope this helps Wally
P.S. Ebay is a good source for led rv style lights
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01-16-2011, 05:27 PM
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Streamin'
1995 30' Cutter Bus LE
Madison
, South Dakota
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 293
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We got the lamps out...
We found a way to remove the bulbs. Deb wrapped some Gaffer tape on the lamp and was able to use some small long-nose pliers to pull it out.
We want to change the lights we use when we are dry camping to reduce the power consumption. The problem we are having is finding the right color temperature LEDs to use in the interior.
The 1141 replacement we just bought at the Florida RV Super Show in Tampa was called “Natural Light”. To quote Deb, “it makes the place look like a funeral parlor”. (Apologies to those in the funeral industry.)
The ones we bought for the Aisle Lights where called “White” and they are on the blue end of the spectrum. They are replacing tungsten lamps, but we can live with the blue for the Aisle Lights.
The light levels of the LEDs are adequate, but the color temperatures are all over the place.
The manufactures of the LEDs need to come up with a better way of indicating the color of the LED. Their terms; Natural, White, Bright, Bright White, Warm White, etc, all are different from one manufacture to another.
Light temperatures below about 4000 K (Kelvin) appear reddish whereas those above about 7500 K appear bluish. We would like to find an LED with a color temperature that matches the old tungsten lamps, at 3200º Kelvin.
With a background as a Director of Photography, I may be more sensitive to the color of a light source then most, but I think people notice when their upholstery color doesn’t look right or the eggs look green in the frying pan.
The LED replacements are relatively new and will undoubtedly get better and cheaper. I am going to take my time switching over.
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01-16-2011, 05:44 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1995 30' Cutter Bus LE
Madison
, South Dakota
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 12
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Yeah, the "warm" LED we bought to replace the 1141 is dim and sucked the life out of everything it shined on. At US $15.00 I'm glad we only bought the one to try. Now I have to find someplace to use it...like the basement!
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01-31-2011, 11:50 AM
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Rivet Master 
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Dec 2004
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you can break the bulb and twist out the socket with a needle nose pliers- even if you mangle it, its ok, sometimes you have to do it to get corroded auto lights out of their sockets.
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