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07-20-2009, 12:15 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Toilet Parts- Help!
We have a pink toilet in our 1960 Tradewind (I believe it's an Owen and flushes near the floor??). I was told by the rv repair shop that we have to replace the water valve assembly and the vacuum breaker. They don't know where to get these parts and so I'm on a mission. I've contacted or tried to contact RV Doctor George (not answering phone currently) and Singleton's RV in Olympia, WA (voicemail box full). We're in Seattle but the parts are small enough that I don't care WHERE we have to ship them from?!
Does anyone have these parts or know where I can find them? I really want to save this toilet!!! Thanks
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07-20-2009, 12:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
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Hi, Can you post some photos of this toilet? I'm not familiar with "Owen". A picture could get you some answers.
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07-20-2009, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,116
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I'm not familiar with an Owen either. There's an outside chance a marine supply place could help. I think some of those early toilets were marine types. Photos would definitely help here.
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07-20-2009, 10:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 20
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The trailer is not "at home" right now. I will try the rv place tomorrow and get a make on it. I may drive up and take pics if it will help....but pics of what??? The toilet itself? Or the parts that need replacing? They DID call back and said it needs a new water valve assembly and vacuum breaker (this is Chinese to me . Does that help at all? More tomorrow....and thanks for the help so far!!!
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07-20-2009, 10:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 20
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p.s. I will try a marine place tomorrow as well
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07-21-2009, 07:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artemis917
The trailer is not "at home" right now. I will try the rv place tomorrow and get a make on it. I may drive up and take pics if it will help....but pics of what??? The toilet itself? Or the parts that need replacing? They DID call back and said it needs a new water valve assembly and vacuum breaker (this is Chinese to me . Does that help at all? More tomorrow....and thanks for the help so far!!!
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Yes, Pics of the toilet and parts will help. Identification of the toilet and parts is key to finding replacement parts if you can still find them. Good luck on your search.
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07-21-2009, 08:39 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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I believe you have a SaniWare in your TradeWind as it looked like the original one in mine when I got it, although mine wasn't pink. I have an old, very abused base here with caulking all over it. I have not gotten into the insides as I just bought a new one so I don't know if it'll do you any good. I do know the foot pedal is stuck in the down position. You're welcome to it for the cost of shipping.
Here's the only pic I have of yours when it was here.
Brad
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07-21-2009, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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Here's a link to some SaniWare manual information for your reference. Nothing on the site about where to find parts.
SILVERAVION :: Manuals
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07-21-2009, 09:45 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 20
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Thanks, Brad! I'm guessing taking the parts out of yours would be far too troublesome, unfortunately. If I'm wrong and you're up for that I will most definitely take them! In the meantime I will work on confirming the make and keep searching! Thanks for everyone's help
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07-21-2009, 07:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Okay, confirmed as a SaniWare and called a few places that were recommended. No luck so far I'm trying really hard. A few have mentioned I could have the parts fabricated, but if they're corroded/deteriorated can that still be done? Is there any particular TYPE of fabricator I would contact locally? Thanks for the help, guys
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07-22-2009, 08:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
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Send a pm to r&kweber. I think they were able to rebuilt there toilet and they are local. I might be wrong but it's worth a shot.
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07-22-2009, 08:13 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
Here's a link to some SaniWare manual information for your reference. Nothing on the site about where to find parts.
SILVERAVION :: Manuals
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Those manuals have SaniWare models that are too new. Those in the manuals are from the early '60s. Thanks for posting as its great to have the reference.
Brad
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07-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Upon calling every place across the country that was recommended to me by many, I have decided there's no way in hell I'm gonna find all the parts I'd need And according to a couple of people, the vacuum breaker alone would cost a small fortune to have copied, if that would even be possible. Then on top of that would be the fabrication of the remaining parts, which would render the entire thing totally cost prohibitive. I am sad. Very sad. I will have a white toilet with a pink sink and shower. Not good. Not good at all.... But, hey. I tried.
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07-22-2009, 10:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
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Try Andy at Inland RV, if there's any source he'd know. He's on the forum here most of the time
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07-23-2009, 07:29 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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There might be one other possibility. Your SaniWare is an earlier version but the pink porcelain bowl along with the pink seat may be interchangeable with the later SaniWare such as the ones listed in the PDF manual in one of the posts above. Parts for that version may be available. It might just work out so you can keep your cool pink commode.
Brad
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10-12-2009, 12:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1968 26' Overlander
Del Rio
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Toilet part
I need help locating a part for my toilet. This is the original toilet from my 1968 26' Overlander International.The plastic (or maybe Teflon) valve which is activated when you depress of the smaller of the two foot pedals (the one that send water into the bowl) is cracked. I tried to repair the valve be covering the hairline crack with epoxy, but that did not work. Everything on this toilet works except for this valve. can somebody help me to find a replacement part.
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10-14-2009, 06:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
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I can't see what kind of toilet you have from your picks. This site may help. Scroll down to toilets. marksrv.com site index
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
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10-14-2009, 08:00 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68-Ovrlndr
I need help locating a part for my toilet. This is the original toilet from my 1968 26' Overlander International.The plastic (or maybe Teflon) valve which is activated when you depress of the smaller of the two foot pedals (the one that send water into the bowl) is cracked. I tried to repair the valve be covering the hairline crack with epoxy, but that did not work. Everything on this toilet works except for this valve. can somebody help me to find a replacement part.
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That valve came from Thetford model 1800 toilet.
Parts for it vanished many years ago.
Perhaps someone may have a "take-off."
Andy
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10-14-2009, 08:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
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Just so you know..
Quote:
Originally Posted by 68-Ovrlndr
I need help locating a part for my toilet. This is the original toilet from my 1968 26' Overlander International.The plastic (or maybe Teflon) valve which is activated when you depress of the smaller of the two foot pedals (the one that send water into the bowl) is cracked. I tried to repair the valve be covering the hairline crack with epoxy, but that did not work. Everything on this toilet works except for this valve. can somebody help me to find a replacement part.
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68-Ovrlndr,
That part is most decidedly not a Teflon based material product, IMHO.
When I was working at the NASA's Langley Research Center, in the late 60's, we were just seeing Teflon tape usage in the Rocket Test Tunnel..
I rather doubt very much then, that Airstream was that much more advance than NASA...
Consider this thought,
Any similar replacement part that you find "used" from another toilet will eventually have the same failure.
If it were me, I would just bite the bullet and, get a new toilet.
"Just imagine what a new throne would feels like"...
ciao
53FC
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10-15-2009, 08:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 20
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Thanks! It may be too late as I believe the new toilet has already been ordered and the pink one has been promised to a friend who plans on "restoring" it!
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