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03-21-2018, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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You can join PEX to the polybutyl with the PEX fittings and clamps.
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03-21-2018, 04:41 PM
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#22
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,107
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Airstream did switch to PEX several years ago. My 2013 is all PEX.
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03-21-2018, 06:11 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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If it's any help YouTube has a bunch of videos about PEK and Sharkbite fittings.
Perhaps you could use a short section of flexible water line and adapt it to get you water until you got home.
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03-21-2018, 07:34 PM
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#24
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Update
We were traveling right past Dixie RV on Interstate 10 today so I called them to see if they could look at the toilet. They said they were extremely busy and could fit me in the beginning of next week! After some pleading and explaining that this was a VERY simple job, he said to stop by. I was in and out in under 30 minutes. They replaced the fitting with a Shark Bite fitting that they claim will be better than what I had. They charged me for the fitting but did not charge me for labor. I purchased a few mud dauber screens to show my support for their efforts. A call to Airstream confirmed that they would cover the $10 expense for the fitting. I'm flushed with pleasure.....pun intended.
We're happy campers again!
Thanks for all the help and support!
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03-21-2018, 08:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Help-toilet no longer connected to fresh water!
Great! Happy for you. And good on you for buying some stuff in their store.
Happy trails!
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03-22-2018, 04:46 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Good job Dixie rv!!!!!.
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03-22-2018, 05:03 AM
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#27
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Rivet Master
2017 16' Sport
N/A
, N/A
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,789
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03-28-2018, 07:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Update: toilet still leaking
Well, unfortunately, we continue to see water on the floor right by the toilet. I wipe it up, dry everything off and then flush the toilet 5 times and I see nothing dripping and no water around the base of the toilet. However if I go away for a few hours, it looks like the attached picture. This is getting old!
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03-28-2018, 07:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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It appears the leak is coming out of the back of my new PEX connector.....the one I just had replaced by Dixie RV. This is the same type of connector that had the horrible reviews on Home Depot. Based on my last experience trying to tighten the fitting, I plan to do nothing. Hopefully, there will be no damage to the floor or the walls. To say I am not a fan of PEX would be an understatement.
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03-28-2018, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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I'd start by stuffing towels under that area. Keep water off the floor if possible. I wonder why it takes some time to appear? It seems like the leak would appear as soon as the pressure built up (flush). Is it possible the leak is somewhere else and just pools in the low spot? Can you feel where the fitting is wet?
Could the water be getting past the fitting in the toilet and not the pipe to the toilet?
Does water pool if the pump is shut off? (same with city water)
Just thinking out loud. I still like hose clamps!
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03-28-2018, 08:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
I'd start by stuffing towels under that area. Keep water off the floor if possible. I wonder why it takes some time to appear? It seems like the leak would appear as soon as the pressure built up (flush). Is it possible the leak is somewhere else and just pools in the low spot? Can you feel where the fitting is wet?
Could the water be getting past the fitting in the toilet and not the pipe to the toilet?
Just thinking out loud.
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Good questions. I’m amazed at what seems to build up in a short period of time when I can continually flush with no apparent leak. I’m still not positive where it is coming from but the last time I went in I put my hand on the back side of the connection to the toilet and my fingers were wet.
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03-28-2018, 10:04 AM
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Airstream Ambassador
Jackson Center
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 742
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Hi billrector,
We're very sorry to learn about the leak you described in your 2017 27' Flying Cloud. Please send us a direct message with your contact information and the last 6 digits of your VIN so we can share it with our Customer Service and Technical Support team.
You can also reach Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support at customer_support@airstream.com
We look forward to helping you get this resolved.
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Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached at 1 (877) 596-6111, option 1.
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03-28-2018, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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If you shut off the ball valve in your photo, does it still leak?
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03-29-2018, 08:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
If you shut off the ball valve in your photo, does it still leak?
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Nope
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03-29-2018, 09:32 PM
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#35
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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We had a similar leak. It was a very fine crack in the plastic fitting. Sounds like this one is going to be a challenge to track down. Pressure difference was what seemed to drive our leak. Get an adjustable pressure regulator and run the shore water at about 40 psi. See if that helps until you can get the coach in for a waranty service. May be able to get AS to send an independent tech to you. They have done that for some folks. At a minimum, they can send you parts. Good Luck. Pat
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03-31-2018, 12:02 PM
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#36
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Rivet Master
2017 16' Sport
N/A
, N/A
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billrector
Good questions. I’m amazed at what seems to build up in a short period of time when I can continually flush with no apparent leak. I’m still not positive where it is coming from but the last time I went in I put my hand on the back side of the connection to the toilet and my fingers were wet.
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You may want to check around the toilet.
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03-31-2018, 01:34 PM
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#37
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3 Rivet Member
1974 21' Globetrotter
2016 30' International
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 129
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Might be hard to see my markup on your photo but mine is leaking with the same fact pattern as yours but getting progressively worse. When I turn the ball valve on water come from the seam in the pvc connection into the toilet. Maybe you pinpointed yours but thought I would share. Mine is a 2016 IS serenity, and started leaking right after I took it in for service and they replaced the entire line to the toilet.
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03-31-2018, 02:20 PM
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#38
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Rivet Master
2016 28' International
Sioux Falls
, SD
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 576
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Put a mirror under the 90 elbow, flush, then watch. Sometimes they have hairline cracks from the bands and the weep.
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2017 Ram 2500 4x4 Diesel, CG1800 Bed slide, Leer topper
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04-10-2018, 06:50 AM
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#39
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamInc
Hi billrector,
We're very sorry to learn about the leak you described in your 2017 27' Flying Cloud. Please send us a direct message with your contact information and the last 6 digits of your VIN so we can share it with our Customer Service and Technical Support team.
You can also reach Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support at customer_support@airstream.com
We look forward to helping you get this resolved.
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Dear Airstream,
When I first had this issue, I contacted you and you eventually directed me to Dixie RV. They replaced a part, at my expense, but that did not solve our leak. Over a week ago, I contacted you again indicating that the leak continues. Over this past weekend, I emailed you again. I have had no response from you and my toilet, on only our second trip, continues to leak.
By the way, now using our air conditioner for the first time, and the condensation is dripping from the roof.
Disappointed customer!
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04-10-2018, 11:22 AM
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Opinionated newb...
2018 25' Flying Cloud
League City
, TX
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 479
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Condensation on the ceiling inside?
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