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03-24-2016, 09:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
1997 21' Excella
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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26U Macerator Toilet - What do you think?
I take delivery of a 26U in a couple of weeks. I have been an AS owner for 20 years and I never have used, maintained or repaired a macerator toilet.
Any feedback/advice on likes/dislikes with the 26U toilet?
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Greg
2016 RAM 2500 6.7L Cummins, 4WD, Crew, Rear Air
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03-24-2016, 09:56 PM
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Rivet Master 
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
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I have a portable macerator called Tank Buddy by Thetford. I like it for dumping into my home sewer clean out access but as a perminant built in system I have reservations. It's another power tool that can malfunction & then what, without an alternative dump like a bypass system it could be a massive headache.
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
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2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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03-24-2016, 10:39 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Wait… are you talking about a macerator built directly into the toilet, or a macerator pump for discharging the waste tanks? Airstream has used macerator pump tank discharge on its Interstate B-vans for many years, but I've never heard of them using an actual macerating toilet before.
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03-24-2016, 11:48 PM
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Rivet Master 
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
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The toilet in the 26U has a macerator built into it. Factory original.
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03-25-2016, 05:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
1997 21' Excella
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
Wait… are you talking about a macerator built directly into the toilet, or a macerator pump for discharging the waste tanks? Airstream has used macerator pump tank discharge on its Interstate B-vans for many years, but I've never heard of them using an actual macerating toilet before.
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It's a built in macerator toilet, fancy buttons and all. The 26U comes with the Sealand 8100 series macerator. I walked through one at the dealer and sure enough there she be. And apparently not an option to retro fit to old school proven ones. Must be some configuration in the logistics of the combo shower/toilet bathroom.
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2016 RAM 2500 6.7L Cummins, 4WD, Crew, Rear Air
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03-25-2016, 06:18 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1976 31' Sovereign
Fuquay Varina
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Not sure if ours is the same model, but we installed a macerator toilet when we did a complete remodel. It gave us the option of putting the toilet anywhere we wanted without regard to the tanks. It has worked great for the last year. In addition, we also have a macerator pump for our discharge, connected to a retractable hose reel. Redundant, but I wanted to be able to "pump" our discharge rather than gravity drain.
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03-25-2016, 07:01 AM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Macerator toilets work great…..when they work!
You have to be VERY CAREFUL about what you put in and how you operate them. Back in my days as a full-service RV tech, I had to repair many macerators that were not working. Just about everything from motors to pumps to hoses to electronic circuits.
NOT FUN!!!
Hopefully they have improved their mechanisms to be more tolerant and reliable, as they are a great idea.
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Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
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03-25-2016, 08:31 AM
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Rivet Master 
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
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We had a macerator toilet in a house we lived in - the previous owners wanted a bathroom in the attic. It was the most unreliable piece of bathroom equipment I've ever seen. I think we had three repairs in a two year period.
I am deeply suspicious of them and I agree with Mrjkq - it's another power drain that can break. Simpler is better.
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03-25-2016, 11:00 AM
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Silver Star
1970 23' Safari
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2014
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3 years ago I installed a macerating/pump toilet in our house basement. It was below sewer level and it macerates and pumps thru about a 3/4id line into the sewer pipe. It is about a 7ft lift. besides the toilet it also handle the shower/sink water. It has preformed awesome for 3 years and i would recommend it. No experience with an AS one, but very happy with my house one.
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03-25-2016, 11:24 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I Hope They Work
We have a 26U but haven't used the toilet yet. We take our maiden voyage in 2 weeks to Point Lookout State Park in St. Mary's, MD. I can tell you about it then, and take pictures if you want! jk
We were told by Patrick at Colonial that it has the macerator because of location, so the macerator pumps it to the black tank. He said many boats and yachts use macerator toilets too. He felt they're fine as long as wrong type things don't get flushed such as regular toilet paper, paper towels, baby toys, etc.
I figure if it goes up, we resort to what we did before RVs! Life won't crash and burn.
Here's to adventures!
Mike
Baltimore, MD
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03-25-2016, 11:54 AM
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Coast to Coast
2016 26' Flying Cloud
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
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We also have the 26U. On our 3 week maiden voyage the toilet worked very well. However there were no instructions for the switches (dry & with water) and I had to look them up on Internet.
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03-25-2016, 12:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
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Box Elder (formerly Long Island, NY)
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Join Date: May 2013
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I have a 2015 Dynamax DX3-37RB that has TWO macerator toilets. A Thetford rep I met at the Hershey RV Show last October stated that they used only 1.6 liters per flush but, I think they use quite a bit more. I can't figure out how I could check this. This past winter was the second time I winterized my Super C. No problems I could see. The Thetford rep also said to only use RV toilet paper but, Northern triple ply passed the "shake test" and, it's SO much nicer to use. I use a clear extension fitting on my dump pipe and, have never seen any clumps of paper (or any other material). As mentioned, if you have only one toilet and it "goes south", you don't have many options.
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03-25-2016, 01:57 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Any toilet can fail so if concerned have a backup. We just keep a few kitchen trash bags to line the bowel if needed, and dispose properly when used. And there's the great outdoors, clean up or bury it appropriately.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
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03-25-2016, 04:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
1997 21' Excella
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kacnps
We also have the 26U. On our 3 week maiden voyage the toilet worked very well. However there were no instructions for the switches (dry & with water) and I had to look them up on Internet.
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The dealer gave me all the documentation already and only the installation manuals were in the Airstream packet. Like you I looked them up on the Internet.
But I can't find any maintenance tips, like if it gets clogged from too much TP, in how to unclog. One person told me to by some long disposable gloves. That makes good sense.
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2016 RAM 2500 6.7L Cummins, 4WD, Crew, Rear Air
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03-25-2016, 04:11 PM
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Rivet Master 
1969 31' Sovereign
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Had one for 10 years in our boat. Had a rotatory timer switch to flush variable up to 15 seconds worked great. I think I had to replace the timer switch only problem I remember.
Used regular TP but did have a warning sign in head warning not to flush anything you did not create except TP.
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03-25-2016, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NY24
they used only 1.6 liters per flush but, I think they use quite a bit more..
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Yikes! A water hog!
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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03-25-2016, 05:29 PM
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Rivet Master 
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Chgo. N.W. Burb's
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We have been in our 26U since Jan.20. No problem's . It's a learning curve.But it's OK.
I do cut open the chemical packets and pour into the water, then flush it. Wasn't sure if packets would harm system.
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03-25-2016, 08:25 PM
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Rivet Master 
1986 25' Sovereign
2008 F350, 6.4L diesel
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One advantage of a macerater toilet is the black water line can be as small as 1", instead of the 3" we have in the trailers. A smaller line means the tank and toilet can be a distance apart.
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03-26-2016, 05:57 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Had our 26 U for a week, the toilet seems wonderful, will extra fuzzes today.
Left lever for urren right puss top to add water to bowel bottom to flush.
Will see when I dump if I can see a difference.
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03-26-2016, 06:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
1997 21' Excella
Full-Time
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mkr1950
We have a 26U but haven't used the toilet yet. We take our maiden voyage in 2 weeks to Point Lookout State Park in St. Mary's, MD. I can tell you about it then, and take pictures if you want! jk
We were told by Patrick at Colonial that it has the macerator because of location, so the macerator pumps it to the black tank. He said many boats and yachts use macerator toilets too. He felt they're fine as long as wrong type things don't get flushed such as regular toilet paper, paper towels, baby toys, etc.
I figure if it goes up, we resort to what we did before RVs! Life won't crash and burn.
Here's to adventures!
Mike
Baltimore, MD
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Let me know how she flows. If you figure out somewhere how to service a clog, let me know that too. Have a good trip.
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