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05-09-2014, 08:37 PM
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PopHetzler
2003 34' Classic S/O
Troy
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 112
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Quiet water Pump
Need to find a quiet water pump for a 2003 34ft . Any ideas? Mine sounds like a jet engine. DH
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05-10-2014, 05:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,142
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They can be pretty noisy. An accumulator might help. The problem is with the impulse pumps is the pressure pulses radiate through the plumbing amplifying the noise. The accumulator will damp these out. We don't use the pump that much so the noise is not a big issue.
Perry
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05-10-2014, 05:51 AM
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Rivet Master 
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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The water pump that came with our 2005 Classic (bought used) was alway extremely noisy. If memory serves I believe is was made by "Aquatec."
After a couple of years use it failed and I bought a replacement from a local RV dealer - the make was "Shurflo.
The difference in noise level ... and water volume ..... was like night and day. We can barely hear it operate now.
I suppose it could have been that the "Aquatec" was in problems of some sort since we first got the trailer and just took a couple of seasons to fail completely.
Also, I recall that on one side (intake? delivery?) the "Aquatec" was hard-piped, whereas when I installed the Shurflo I made sure it had a foot of so of flex hose on each side and no doubt that helped a lot.
Brian.
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2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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05-12-2014, 03:28 PM
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PopHetzler
2003 34' Classic S/O
Troy
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 112
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Thanks for the info. I checked and have an Aquatec. Spoke with another Airstreamer this weekend and he suggested a Surflo too. I think a new pump is in my future. Was afraid I would wake up the whole camp with an early morning flush so had to walk to the park latrine. What a mess. thanks again. D. Hetzler.
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05-12-2014, 03:42 PM
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Rivet Master 
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emh142
Was afraid I would wake up the whole camp with an early morning flush
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The good news, from my experience, is that the noise is all inside the trailer- it's not really noticeable outside.
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2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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05-12-2014, 10:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2013 30' Flying Cloud
Cincinnati
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 205
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We put a Flojet Variable Speed R4515-743 into our 2013 FC 30
We replace the water pump when the AS was 3 months old. The old pump was noisy, and had an internal leak (pump cycling on every 30 seconds, and when connected to fresh water had a leak out of the FW tank overflow screen).
The more we've used the Flojet VSD pump, the more we like it. Pretty quiet.
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05-13-2014, 03:26 AM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,097
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Mounting the pump with some sound insulation under it might help reduce the "drum effect" noise from being screwed to the wood floor in the trailer. Flex hose either side will help reduce noise. We also installed a ShureFlo air expansion tank so there is no water hammer effect when shutting off a faucet that can cause plastic or even PEX fittings to eventually leak.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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05-13-2014, 07:13 AM
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Rivet Master 
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 837
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ShurFlo, or FloJet, in conjunction with the small accumulator tank will probably take care of the problem. In addition to that, I put a piece of one inch thick heavy rubber foam under the pump.
For whatever it's worth.
Larry
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05-15-2014, 05:54 PM
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Rivet Master 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Loose (unsecured) pipes will add to the noise also,
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05-16-2014, 12:23 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2004 16' International CCD
Chicagoland
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 265
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What do you make of this silencing kit from SHURFlo? It looks like the hoses are looped during installation to absorb vibration?
Amazon.com: SHURflo 94-591-01 Pump Silencing Kit: Automotive
Might this help to reduce the pump's noise or is it just a gimmick? Would there be any issues with installing this in conjunction with an accumulator?
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05-16-2014, 12:39 PM
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Rivet Master 

2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airrogant
What do you make of this silencing kit from SHURFlo? It looks like the hoses are looped during installation to absorb vibration?
Amazon.com: SHURflo 94-591-01 Pump Silencing Kit: Automotive
Might this help to reduce the pump's noise or is it just a gimmick? Would there be any issues with installing this in conjunction with an accumulator?
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 Hi, I made my own flexible hoses because I wanted them longer for looping and needed angled ends to fit my water pump. I added an accumulator later. All is good now.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-16-2014, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master 

2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,282
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 Hi,
With accumulator.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-16-2014, 01:07 PM
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PopHetzler
2003 34' Classic S/O
Troy
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 112
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I'm going to try it all. Flojet vs Shurflo? Comments/opinions?
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05-16-2014, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master 
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,198
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I did the same as robertsunrus except the use of insulation around visible pipes and under the pump. We use the pump quite a bit this fix works well.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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05-16-2014, 11:59 PM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,097
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Looking at post #12 installation, does the pump have a built in filter or is there an external filter for the larger stuff in the water?
The "plan ahead for service" factory location for our water pump with built in filter that covers the area with water when opened is under two runs of duct work and wires at the bottom of the closet. We managed to get the air expansion tank in, but will contemplate the 1" rubber pad mentioned elsewhere to help with noise abatement.
There are always such great ideas to solve problems in this forum!
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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05-17-2014, 12:11 AM
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Rivet Master 

2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,282
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
Looking at post #12 installation, does the pump have a built in filter or is there an external filter for the larger stuff in the water?
The "plan ahead for service" factory location for our water pump with built in filter that covers the area with water when opened is under two runs of duct work and wires at the bottom of the closet. We managed to get the air expansion tank in, but will contemplate the 1" rubber pad mentioned elsewhere to help with noise abatement.
There are always such great ideas to solve problems in this forum!
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 Hi, if you look at post number 11 you will see my external filter which connects to my fresh water PEX line from the tank.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-17-2014, 12:45 AM
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Rivet Master 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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How much noise do some of these pumps make?
Maybe I got lucky by accidentally getting one that won't wake the dead?
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05-17-2014, 01:42 AM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,097
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In our 2013 25FB International, the pump was just below the pillows on the bed, so if one or the other used the bathroom at night and flushed, the other was awakened by the growl noise only inches away from their ears. :roll eyes:
In our Classic, the water pump is down the hall beyond the shower under the closet floor, which resonates like a drum. I am hopeful a rubber pad will help reduce the din to a bearable non-awakening level.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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05-17-2014, 06:53 AM
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Rivet Master 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Yea I could see how right under the bed could be an issue no doubt.
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