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06-23-2018, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
FREDERICK
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Do you keep your water heater turned on?
I normally leave my water heater turned off, and try to remember to turn it on about 30 minutes before taking a shower, but that is often inconvenient. Currently my gas portion of 6 gallon hot water is not working (won’t stay lit consistently- another thread), but the electric element works fine, though slower than gas or both together. Will it harm anything if I leave the electric function of my hot water heater on all night so that I have hot water shower first thing in the morning? Yes currently at campsite, but only 30 amp. It is an Atwood gas/electric, 2015 international serenity. Thanks for any thoughts , advice or input.
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06-23-2018, 06:35 PM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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You are fine leaving it on. Once water is hot the heating element turns off. Will come on again as needed. On the gas issue, clean the burner tube out. If needed, you can adjust it by loosening the set screw and moving it until you get a good blue flame--it's possible the burner is running to lean or too rich.
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06-23-2018, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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I left ours on electric from October 2017 through March 2018 this past winter. I only turn on the gas portion when we both are planning to shower immediately one after the other.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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06-23-2018, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Your owner's manual probably covers this IMO.
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06-23-2018, 07:23 PM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,720
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We usually turn on the water heater only when we need hot water. Otherwise we leave it off. No reason that it could not be left on but we choose not to. Kind of waste not...want not type of thing!
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06-23-2018, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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I turn mine off most of the time. The water gets hotter than I like it if I just leave it on. I have a dual gas electric but just run it on gas.
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06-23-2018, 08:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Lake Havasu City
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2017
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I mostly boondock, so leaving the water heater on 24/7 would be a crazy waste of propane, given that my only use for hot water is a once-a-day shower. (I don't use hot water to wash hands, face, dishes, etc., because it would waste gallons a day just running water to get it hot at the faucet. This would be true even if I were plugged in and running the water heater on AC.)
I used to turn on the water heater before showering and let it run for ten to fifteen minutes to get to a comfortable temperature, then shut it off. You don't use much propane in fifteen minutes a day. But then I came up with a better way: I bought a small remote-reading aquarium thermometer and slipped its temperature probe underneath the water heater's insulating jacket. I set it to sound an alarm when it reached my favorite temperature for showering.
Now when I want to shower, I turn on the water heater, press a button to enable the thermometer's alarm, and go about my business. When it beeps, I know the temperature is perfect. Key point here: I only turn on the hot water in the shower, not the cold. No mixing means no wasted water while fiddling around trying to get the right temperature. I always get the perfect temperature--the thermometer's alarm guarantees that.
I still have to run enough water to get the hot water to the showerhead. But it's not wasted: I run it into a quart Rubbermaid bottle, which I then use to wash dishes throughout the day.
Bottom line: I get the perfect shower temperature every time, I use the minimum amount of propane, and no water is wasted.
Note: This procedure works well for a single person, but for multiple people it'd have to be modified a bit. Still, some version of this should be doable.
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06-23-2018, 08:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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We only use the water heater when we need hot water...primarily for showering and dish washing. Just he habit we are in.
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06-24-2018, 05:36 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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^
X2
........ doesn't take long to heat 8gal.
Same goes for the WP, only on when we need water. 👍
Bob
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06-24-2018, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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No.
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06-24-2018, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Tankless. On when camped. Off on the road unless need hot water for hand washing or whatever.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-25-2018, 04:40 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 47
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The only thing I can think of that would warrant "consideration" for leaving the hot water electrical element on continuously, would be scaling of the element. No water is 100% free of minerals (well, maybe rain water?). When the water gets hot, these minerals are released. Sometimes just residue in the bottom of the tank, which are easily rinsed away during regular maintenance; sometimes as scaling on the element, which reduces the life of the element. But the same occurs in your home if you have an electric wh, which lasts about 12 years or more. So...
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06-25-2018, 05:26 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1994 34' Limited
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 208
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no, it heats water so quickly we do not see the need.
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06-25-2018, 07:18 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
1993 25' Excella
Flagler Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 317
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how much ur tankless sys. ?
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06-25-2018, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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It depends on the brand and features. Atwood, Truma, and PrecisionTemp come to mind. A search of the forums for “tankless “ would get a lot of results.
I went with a PrecisionTemp because it was the one with anti-freeze features built in, and they seem to be the inventors of RV tankless. Not cheap, but works very well for DW’s Long hot showers [emoji3]
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-25-2018, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
FREDERICK
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 539
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Thanks for all the replies. I will most likely just turn on the water heater as soon as I get up.
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06-26-2018, 04:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 19' International
Tallahassee
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 938
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We turn it on when we arrive and leave it own until we depart.
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06-26-2020, 08:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' Flying Cloud
1987 29' Sovereign
1978 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A W Warn
I left ours on electric from October 2017 through March 2018 this past winter. I only turn on the gas portion when we both are planning to shower immediately one after the other.
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Was your trailer plugged in to an electric source when you left it on all those months?
Accidentally left mine on gas while cleaning so it must’ve come on and off every time the water cooled. Had been stored so don’t know how much water was in the small water heater tank. Hope I didn’t do a lot of damage.
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