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Old 03-20-2008, 09:15 PM   #21
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Tankless vs Elec/propane

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I think it best to go with a Atwood 6gal. electo/start elec/propane water heater.
adding a Tankless will be unnecessary and there are other issues more important. This week end I will take out the old and get the floor and pipes ready to take the new unit.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:18 PM   #22
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I have not gotten to the gas lines yet but I am under the impression that the lines run outside the undercabin and are visible from underneith the trailer.
Hmmm.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:48 AM   #23
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HI Paris, yes the gas lines run outside the belly pan under the trailer. Very easy access. Get some good flaring tools and don't forget to put the nut on the lines before you flare the end ! It really is annoying to have made a really great flare on the pipe only to find that you have left off the nut.
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:02 PM   #24
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Water Heater choice resolved

Thanks to the forum we have decided to go with a Suburban 5W6PE gas/elec with electro start priced at $249.00.
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:07 PM   #25
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Thanks CJ! gas lines.
I swear I am going to have a backhoe did a ditch in the yard so I can access the undercarriage!
Not really, but I am going to do that or line up some cinder blocks and ride up it for easier access. "bellybean"
We think we are going to name our new baby the "Airbean" Has anyone got that name yet?
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:13 PM   #26
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Ladybug, 10/4 and copy that. Our unites look so much alike inside except for your lady bugs. We are going to strip the inside to paintable status. We are thinking of using lamanent flooring after we choose a paint color. From that point we will install the water heater, Tub, Holding tank and refrig..
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:57 PM   #27
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Not really, but I am going to do that or line up some cinder blocks and ride up it for easier access.
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I vote against the use of cinder blocks. They are unsafe, since they tend to crumble and break. Bad news if it happens while you're under the trailer. Better to find something else, like perhaps wood, or ramps.
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Ramp blocks

It hasn't come to that yet and your right. Tomorrow out comes the old water heater and damaged bath floor.
I post some after progress.
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No blocks !

DO NOT USE CINDER BLOCKS ! It could cost you your life. Wednesday my Engine Company had the unpleasant task of extricating the body of an individual who was killed when the blocks under a house trailer failed as they were attempting to install axles to move it.
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Raising "Airbean"

Friends, I called Rod at CandG Airstream in Bellflower L.A. and he said there is no need to raise the trailer unless I could not get under it now.
There will be not need to remove the underpan which was the reason for lifting her up in the first place. Rod said there is nothing I need inside the belly pan but insulation and frame. We were thinking of running new wire throught the belly pan for AC sockets and and the new 3way Suburban water heater. Besides I will have enough work right now just replacing the floor under the tub.
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6gal vs 10gal. suburban water heater

Hey Safari62,
I think the 6 gal. water tank is good for our size Ship but I wonder if we won't comprimise showers unlike you mentioned. Also the size is smaller of course for the hole size. 12 3/4" X12 3/4" etc. The 10 gal. is 16"X16" which fits the hole allot better. But if you still feel it is adiquate then my metal guy will make the outside coverguard larger to accomodate the smaller size.
Is that a water tank replacement you have in the photo? I was wondering about the same thing and wonder if I should replace our old metal tank.
Your plasiform company sent a estimate for our Globe Trotter to be $129.00 or something close to that plus shipping.
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1963 Globe Trotter Water Heater

Suburban 6gal. 3way electrostart is what we are going to use for our water heater.
I am enclosing photos of my floor relacement under the tub and biffy. At first I covered the hole with pressure treated wood thinking this will certainly prevent further wood damage and then a streamer told me it will damage the aluminum and metal parts of the undercarriage. So I took that out and painted all ends and tops and bottom of this proper flooring plywood and recut to fit. I cut the edges going under the cabin at a slight angle and sludged the wood into place. Nice tight fit. Anyone know a place to go to for the black drain pipes or is that a local thing? I think I need to replace the black tank gate dump valve too because I think it leaks. That is what I saw when I filled it partially with water and I don't think I can replace a inner seal? Or can I?
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:07 PM   #33
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Hey Safari62,
I think the 6 gal. water tank is good for our size Ship but I wonder if we won't comprimise showers unlike you mentioned. Also the size is smaller of course for the hole size. 12 3/4" X12 3/4" etc. The 10 gal. is 16"X16" which fits the hole allot better. But if you still feel it is adiquate then my metal guy will make the outside coverguard larger to accomodate the smaller size.
Is that a water tank replacement you have in the photo? I was wondering about the same thing and wonder if I should replace our old metal tank.
Your plasiform company sent a estimate for our Globe Trotter to be $129.00 or something close to that plus shipping.
If the water is hot enough for your first shower, leave the burner on and there with be plenty of hot water for the second, or third, or forth. If you turned it off before the first shower you would still get at least two showers, I'm sure. (Unless you're a girl of high school age?) It is heating water faster then you are using it with the help of the shower head on/off lever.

On the black tank valve, check this http://www.airforums.com/forums/f444...ild-40771.html as of late thread and try searching for what others have done here also. I never documented my experience but the valves can be rebuilt.
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6 Gal. is fine

I tend to over think and this is one of those.
Of course 6gal. will be sufficient! I just was not sure because the old one is 9gal. that I took out.
I am going to your black tank outlet valve assembly now and get over the water heater issue.
SW6PE Suburban 3/way electolite is it for me.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:26 AM   #35
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Water Heater Install '63 Globe Trotter

These are the recent photos of our water heater install. Outside photo is not showing the bottom screen to vent which will be added later.
Suburban SW6DE Elec/Propane/Pizolight 6 gallon.
We could not ask for a easier fit up for exhaust and intake vents lining up
Thanks to "Canoe" and "Fotochop"
I used Stainless steel phillips screws for the shroud slightly over sized to prevent rusting.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:16 PM   #36
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Moving Along with the WaterHeater Install

This is my update to my install,
Hope this is helpfull by showing the inner workings of a '63 Globe Trotter.
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Getting Gloss Paint on sills

Unfortuetly I missmatched our paint color by several tones of almond.
Now we agree that the color of our window frames should match our
electrical socket plates. We will remask and do all over again.
"Love is the degree of tollerence" and so we will redo the tapping and repaint
without grumbling.
Our interior paint will be dodgey because we thought a 60's speckley texture would be cool. Now we have to decide whether we can do the speckle in a agreeable way as not to draw attention to it. Not sponge like or dabbing but more like spackle knockdown in a very fine subtle way.
Go McCain!
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Paris,

I am in the middle of doing a similar water heater replacement on our '63 GT. You have done a great job in reworking the original face plate, but I think you need to add some louvers on the left side for combustion air. Take a look at the picture on the Atwood/Suburban site. The replacement cover shows the location of these openings.
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Hey Steve, were can I find this site you mention?
I went to your site, excellent. Looked for the Nova frig and it is really an expensive unite. You really did score though you didn't mention how much you paid for it.
Hope I didn't make any blunders with venting on the water heater.
I will try to let you know how it comes out.
Please send me a link OK?
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