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Old 08-22-2008, 06:29 AM   #21
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My Argosy 20 had a camaged fitting, rather than mess with it I repalced it. It's an option...
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:27 AM   #22
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Valterra vs. Thetford

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Since everything in the modern RV world seems to be Valterra, I would lean that way. Just easier all around, especially if you need replacement parts later on. Just my $0.02.
I would agree. On our '96, the black tank thetford valve has had an ongoing problem of not sealing after a few uses. After removing and cleaning it several times, I added a third valve to the system just upstream of the drain hose fitting. I used a Valterra since all of the seals are attached to the valve mechanism with the pipe connections being just square flanges. If anything goes wrong, you just remove 4 bolts and replace the whole valve (at $13.50 instead of $45+ for thetford) Another maintenance bonus is that none of the fasteners are threaded into plastic.
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:09 AM   #23
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Thanks everyone for the advice and the offers of parts! DEITZ645, it looks as though a temporary fix may be in order until I can do a complete replacement. The flare at the end of the pipe doesn't go all the way around though, there are four separate flares, but they are very thin. The second picture is a bit blurry, but it shows the grey water outlet downstream of the Thetford Valve. (Never thought I'd spend so much time taking pictures of a sewer pipe!!)
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:19 AM   #24
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"Never thought I'd spend so much time taking pictures of a sewer pipe!!"

I have read a lot of threads about the older models not having a gray water tank and that it was just let to run out on the ground. I have never seen one, but it all makes sense to me now that I see how it was plumbed.

I think my Fernco Coupling idea would be a viable alternative until you work up the intestinal fortitude to drop the pan that covers your waste water plumbing.

Is there a cap that covers the pipe when not in use and in transit???
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I'm going to try your Fernco Coupling idea. There was no cap/hose etc when I bought the trailer.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:00 AM   #26
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That may in fact be an original Thetford fitting - looks like they were changed in 1965 according to the VAC FAQ's page. Though someone here with a model in the early sixties should be able to confirm that (unless they have all been changed out). Not an answer for you but some background in any event. From VAC site:


Q: What’s with the older Thetford sewer fittings? Modern fittings wont fit.
A:1964 and older trailers have an older style of Thetford fitings than the later trailers. In 1965, Thetford changed the design, increasing the diameter of the lugs and sealing surface by an additional 3/8" in diameter. These modern fittings are still Thetford, which is the top-of-the-line fitting.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:06 AM   #27
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Q: What’s with the older Thetford sewer fittings? Modern fittings wont fit.
A:1964 and older trailers have an older style of Thetford fitings than the later trailers. In 1965, Thetford changed the design, increasing the diameter of the lugs and sealing surface by an additional 3/8" in diameter. These modern fittings are still Thetford, which is the top-of-the-line fitting.
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I guess this would be the answer to why the Thetford to Valterra adaptor is too large for your sewer pipe.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:14 AM   #28
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Some replacement info. from the VAC on some older valves:

http://www.vintageairstream.com/FAQ/...dumpvalve.html
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Did you get a working solution to your sewer dilemma?
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I have had this adapter disconnect more then one time, I'm thinking of a hack sawing off the thetford end and putting something in its place lake a pull shut off and be able to connect using a Valterra fitting only any help would be great
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We had the factory do ours, Thetford to Valterra so we wouldn't have to use the adapter any more.
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