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08-05-2013, 05:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Looks like the bag of ice trick helped my monitor issue. I went to storage this weekend and the Black tank is now reading empty vs full. The moving ice must have removed some debris.
Kelvin
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Went out the weekend before the 4th of July. The black tank monitor seems to be working still. On the way out back to storage the dump station at the state park was too busy so I decided to dump at our RV park where we store our AS.
After dumping I decided to give the black tank a good flush. I connected the black water flush hose and filled the black tank watching the level through the toilet and watching the monitor. Only when the water was approaching the bottom of the toilet did the monitor finally indicate full. Then I drained the tank.
This weekend we went out and after a day of #1s and #2s I checked the monitor panel. Darn black tank is reading full again. Prior to dumping I filled the tank up through the black flush and then dumped and no change. Dropped a bag of ice down the toilet and drove home 200 miles, no change.
So frustrating. Its not that I need the monitor for the black tank its the fact we spend a ton of money on a AS and it would be nice to have systems work.
Kelvin
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08-05-2013, 06:02 AM
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#22
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
So frustrating. Its not that I need the monitor for the black tank its the fact we spend a ton of money on a AS and it would be nice to have systems work.
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Well, look at it this way… You spent a ton of money on three or four tons of Airstream, so that's a 300%~400% return on your investment!
Seriously, though, it could be worse. On a scale of 1-10, where 1 is "Inconvenient" and 10 is "Catastrophic" a malfunctioning black tank sensor ranks 2 or 3 at most. It's not a trip-killer.
My Interstate has tank sensors (fresh, black, gray, propane) that are supposed to work on 12vDC, but for unknown reasons only works on shore power. As soon as I switch to battery power, it quits working, on all tanks. Which tells me that it's the panel, not the sensors, but doesn't tell me what's wrong with the panel.
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08-05-2013, 06:27 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Kelvin - ours doesn't even register at all now. When we turn on the monitor panel all the lights cycle up in prep mode, then when it sets steady to show all systems, the LED for the black tank is dark - no red, green or yellow. When we cycle through all systems it just skips the black tank reading entirely and even when you try to select the black for monitoring it won't do it. No lights (though they light up when you first power the monitor on). The others (fresh, gray an batt) all seem to work fine.
I'll eventually go in Bruce's direction but will try to have it fixed under warranty. To be honest, it almost doesn't matter. But I agree it's a bit of an annoyance with the $ you shell out on one.
Still - to quote myself :narcissist: "a bad day in the camper is better than your best day in the office"
:-)
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10-17-2013, 06:05 PM
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#24
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1 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari SE
Santa Maria
, California
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 9
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I just found the answer to my question. Upon downloading the manual, link from SuperTrouper, on page 11 it gives instructions for selecting a single tank for calibration. My manual does not include those instructions at all. So now after replacing my blackwater sensor I CAN calibrate just that tank. Thanks
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01-02-2014, 07:05 AM
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#25
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 101
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Newbie with an 05 Safari, and going to attempt to recalibrate the Micropulse. Have read the threads on this, but could not find any info related to how you know where the low and high levels are in the tanks? Micropulse manual says you need to add enough water to cover the low level sensor, and then the high level sensor to establish the range for calibration. How do you figure this out? I climbed under it and could not even see where the sensors are at....
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01-04-2014, 11:14 PM
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#26
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1 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari SE
Santa Maria
, California
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 9
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We were all newbies once.
Let me start off by saying I'm not an expert, but I learned by doing. I replaced my blackwater sensor. It was located on the blackwater drain tube. I believe there is only one sensor per tank. They work by measuring water pressure. That's why there located at the bottom of the tank, or drain. I filled my blackwater tank just barely for the empty measurement, then filled the tank and watched down the commode to see the full measurement. The sensor reads the water pressure at each level, that's how it knows the different levels. You do this as you are in the recalibrate mode at the micropulse panel. Just follow the directions in the manual. If you don't have a manual, you can download one.
Try it yourself first, then if it doesn't work or you screw it up then you can take it in. After a while you won't be a newbie anymore. Good luck.
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01-06-2014, 03:27 PM
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#27
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 101
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Thanks Lights, that makes sense, will give it a try!
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02-18-2014, 11:14 AM
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#28
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1 Rivet Member
2010 27' FB International
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7
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Sensor corrosion on Catcon Micropulse systems.
I have had all the problems with calibration and reliability that many on this thread refer to. After many phone calls and emails to Catcon, they offered to check my sensors.
I finally had time to remove my sensors an send them in to be checked. All were found to have 'contact corrosion' and were replaced under warranty.
It seems that Airstream's original installation may not have been as per Catcon's requirements.
I called Catcon today for specifics. They recommended these steps:
1) Use silicone seal where the phone wire goes through the rubber boot.
2) Use NO sealant on the boot to the sensor. It needs some venting to the atmosphere.
3) Make sure there is a good loop in the wire below the sensor so any water will tend to drip off the wire and not into the connector.
4) Use a dielectric grease on the connections to prevent corrosion.
I won't know if this really fixes the problem until I have time to calibrate and test the system. This may not happen until late summer due to my schedule.
If anyone else has had any luck with similar proceedures, please reply to this thread. I'm sure we would all like to hear if this works
2012 International 27FB
WBCCI 6449
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