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Old 05-14-2024, 06:43 PM   #1
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Question 2 Dump or just 'hold it?'

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Reading a lot of opinions regarding Sewer hose supports. Rather than buying another tool that seems unnecessary, can people staying at full service sites forgo hooking up a sewer hose (no supports, even if required) and just 'hold it' until full then hook up the hose and put away once drained?
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Of course. In fact you should hold the black tank and only dump it periodically. Whether it's worth disconnecting and re-connecting the sewer hose is up to you and how often you will dump.
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Sewer Hose supports

I've seen all the ladder type supports that you can purchase and while they work ok try this.

Home depot, 10 ft rain gutter, I prefer the tin but plastic will work just harder to cut.

Cut it into two sections, maybe 4 and 6 ft. As long as you have a truck it is easy to carry. Simplest sewer ladder ever. Quick and simple even across uneven gravel and rocks which many pads are made of.
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I've seen all the ladder type supports that you can purchase and while they work ok try this.

Home depot, 10 ft rain gutter, I prefer the tin but plastic will work just harder to cut.

Cut it into two sections, maybe 4 and 6 ft. As long as you have a truck it is easy to carry. Simplest sewer ladder ever. Quick and simple even across uneven gravel and rocks which many pads are made of.
I saw pics where this was done. A great idea given the price for a simple 10' long plastic slinky. Never-the-less, since most of our travels will have short stays, pinching it off until full, then dump makes sense...
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However you support the hose you need to keep the black tank valve closed and just dump when there is enough liquid to get a good dump. I personally hold the gray water also and use it to flush the hose after the back tank dump. We do not take long showers. I am just so happy when I actually find a dump connection that is lower than the Airstream outlet.
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Old 05-14-2024, 08:15 PM   #6
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I am just so happy when I actually find a dump connection that is lower than the Airstream outlet.
That can be a problem.
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There is no need to keep the hoses connected except when actually dumping, but if at the same site long enough to do this multiple times it's much easier to leave them connected.

We've encountered more than a few campgrounds which require hose supports for any sewer hose used at their sites, so it's probably best to be prepared and carry a collapsable support just in case. They don't take up much space and are lightweight.
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There is no need to keep the hoses connected except when actually dumping, but if at the same site long enough to do this multiple times it's much easier to leave them connected.

We've encountered more than a few campgrounds which require hose supports for any sewer hose used at their sites, so it's probably best to be prepared and carry a collapsable support just in case. They don't take up much space and are lightweight.
Weíve been camping a long time and never encountered the requirement for a sewer hose support. Maybe we are due. Iím just curious why a campground would have that requirement when we eventually encounter that situation?
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The places we've encountered that required hose supports were for ease of mowing and trimming by the campground staff. We usually do not put our our hose until we're ready to dump unless we know it's going to be raining when we will want to do that. Always "hold it" until you have a black tank at least 3/4 full so you get a good dump, then rinse with at least 2 buckets of water ( we use 2 buckets and 2 toilet bowls full), then rinse the hose with the grey water.



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I've seen all the ladder type supports that you can purchase and while they work ok try this.

Home depot, 10 ft rain gutter, I prefer the tin but plastic will work just harder to cut.

Cut it into two sections, maybe 4 and 6 ft. As long as you have a truck it is easy to carry. Simplest sewer ladder ever. Quick and simple even across uneven gravel and rocks which many pads are made of.

This is exactly what I do. I tow with a PU so putting the two rain gutter sections in the back is not an issue. I got mine, a brown plastic one from a Habitat for Humanity second hand building supply store. $5. When at a full hookup site, we take advantage of all the water. Doing dishes, taking showers will strain your gray tank quickly. Easy to dump the water when the hoses are hooked up.
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I'd gladly buy a nice hose support IF after using a couple times one 'hinge' breaks turning the accordion into spaghetti.
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I have been carrying around one of those slinky supports for three summers, its still in the box. I would probably have to unpack half the truck to find it. That said, it is rare that I am ever at a site with sewer. Normally, I am a go to the dump station camper.
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I'd gladly buy a nice hose support IF after using a couple times one 'hinge' breaks turning the accordion into spaghetti.
I had a hinge break (looks like it's common), was able to tie-wrap the two parts together, works fine.

No need to keep the sewage hose connected to the trailer. Even if we have a 3 service site, I will wait till we travel before dumping. It's kind a natural maceration process, and makes for a cleaner dump and avoids the problems related to solids in the tank. When I finish the dump, the tank water is clear.

I much prefer dumping facilities where the drain is at ground level (generally in concrete). I will often use the campground dumping station, which is often set up with a ground level pad, than use their above ground pipes (6-8"!) you find on many sites. That way I don't need the slinky support.
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Oddly enough, we always leave the sewer alone until a tank is full. Once full we hook up, empty and then store all the hoses. Some friends leave the gray tank open and hooked up while staying in one place, but one interaction with sewer gases (even through a close tank valve) convinced us that was NOT what we wanted to do.

And yes, we finally invested in a collapsible slinky stand for it. While a gutter is great if everything needs to run downhill, if there are turns or bits of uphill involved? Nope! Not to mention storing a 10' piece of gutter. Yesterday we needed about 3' of support, but the hose had to go over the top of a cement basin edge. That hump required holding the hose while it was dumping until we found a nice, flat rock nearby that worked perfectly so there was no dip.

If we are on the road to another place with sewer hookups, we have also learned to travel first and dump later. Things move out of the tank much more quickly if they're been shaken up a bit..
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Weíve been camping a long time and never encountered the requirement for a sewer hose support. Maybe we are due. Iím just curious why a campground would have that requirement when we eventually encounter that situation?
Like said earlier, the convenience of the maintenance staff is one reason. But, the one that stands out is the campground that had rather sharp gravel on the sites and they said that they had encountered many hoses developing pinholes resting directly on the gravel. Made sense to me.
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A different solution.

To elevate my hose over obstacles to the dump hole, I use my leveling blocks. They stack in a variety of configurations. Which allow me to elevate the hose the way I want it.
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Like said earlier, the convenience of the maintenance staff is one reason. But, the one that stands out is the campground that had rather sharp gravel on the sites and they said that they had encountered many hoses developing pinholes resting directly on the gravel. Made sense to me.
I use a slinky stand which greatly lengthened the life of my hoses over the years. Also have been to some full hookup sites where the sewer hookup is elevated up out of the ground and that support stand helps provide the slope necessary to keep the hose from backing up. Typically when using a full hookup site I keep the grey water tank valve open. Never had any sewer gas backup since the sink drains and shower drains in the trailer have P traps. If I fill the black tank during my stay, I'll close the grey water valve the day prior to dumping the black tank. Typically with showers and other uses of the sinks, I'll have enough grey water to get a good flush of the hose after the black water tank is emptied.

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However you support the hose you need to keep the black tank valve closed and just dump when there is enough liquid to get a good dump. I personally hold the gray water also and use it to flush the hose after the back tank dump. We do not take long showers. I am just so happy when I actually find a dump connection that is lower than the Airstream outlet.
As a newbie, Iím curious if thereís a minimum tank fullness percentage to wait until to get a good dump? Minimum 50% or more?
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As a newbie, Iím curious if thereís a minimum tank fullness percentage to wait until to get a good dump? Minimum 50% or more?
I have one of those supports but never used it so I unloaded it. Most rigs can go many more days on black then on gray, our smallish gray tank needs almost daily dumping so I rigged up a sewer cap with a garden hose inlet, and a cap for the gray tank with a garden hose outlet and I keep a gray water hose hooked up and just pull the valve each morning. Black usually gets emptied after 4-5 days, sometimes on the way out at the dump station. On that day I'll save the gray for rinsing the slinky.
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As a newbie, Iím curious if thereís a minimum tank fullness percentage to wait until to get a good dump? Minimum 50% or more?
This is a question with one of those "it depends" kind of answers.

We like to wait until the black tank is 3/4 full or so. A day or two before we dump the black tank we'll close the valve on the gray tank so it will be full enough to provide a good flush on the sewer hose after the black tank dumps.

But, if we're camping only a few days and then pulling out, we'll dump whatever is in the black tank even if it means dumping a few gallons of water down the toilet to get a good dump on the tank.
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