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Old 12-18-2007, 08:48 PM   #1
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1958 Cast Iron P-trap replacement

Hello. I'm looking for a replacement for this - it is the low profile Cast Iron P-trap for my street side tub. Anyone have a good one? or find something like it as a suitable replacement. This allows piping to remain in the belly pan.

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Hello. I'm looking for a replacement for this - it is the low profile Cast Iron P-trap for my street side tub. Anyone have a good one? or find something like it as a suitable replacement. This allows piping to remain in the belly pan.

Thanks,

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Rob,

Can you make one out of ABS elbows?

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:12 PM   #3
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I think the ABS fittings take up too much vertical space. What are you doing for grey tank, Rob? My next project is a '59 Tradewind with the same fitting and I'm trying to plan ahead. Considering adding a 2" channel to the underside of the frame rails to accomodate a tank similar to the late 60's trailers.
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Sounds like this may set you back some on the the *Throw Down!*
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:41 AM   #5
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Yes, and Yes

Bill, It would take too much vertical space and yes Tim, this does interfere with my throwdown challenge. Rob
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:03 AM   #6
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i would think a competent welder could repair it with a piece of scrap cast iron.

i would certainly give it a try anyway.

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on edit- it also kinda looks like the trap on my 100 year old claw foot bath tub, you might try an antique plumbing supply place.
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i would think a competent welder could repair it with a piece of scrap cast iron.

i would certainly give it a try anyway.

john

on edit- it also kinda looks like the trap on my 100 year old claw foot bath tub, you might try an antique plumbing supply place.

John, not to doubt you, but Rob might as well throw in the towel... that is one of those obsolete parts and he should just concede victory now.
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Concede Hell!

That's exactly what you'd like... throw in the towel - not quite sweet heart! You'd better get cutting those elevator bolts. So - JUDGE - what are the metrics we are being judged by? Completeness? Originality? Quality? Let us know man!
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #10
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Rob,

Can you give us some measurements?

- Diameter at threaded inlet.

- Diameter at threaded outlet.

- out to out dimensions from top to bottom and side to side.

Where does the outlet lead to? Does it need to elbow back to the bottom at the inlet end within the fitting or can that be handled with a couple of 45 deg elbows further down the line?

That is sure one custom piece of plumbing. I'm sure you'll be able to get something fabricated to work... if that falls within the rules.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:02 AM   #11
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Good luck in finding, fabricating, or securing this piece, Rob. I haven't gotten into the '56 or '57 that far yet. It lets me know what I am in for. (sigh)
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Size

This is for the bathtub drain. Measurements are:

1 3/4 inch pipe threads
it is 6 inches long, 3 inches high and 2.5 inches wide. This will eventually end up in the gray tank or might just go to the drain for the blue boy if I can't find a replacement.

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Rob, Did you say 1 3/4"? Are you sure about that? I think it is 1 1/4"...
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There is a similar trap in my '59 Tradewind. It is a more compact design. If you are looking around old plumbing supply houses look for one with smooth sides also.

I've posted a photo in my gallery.
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After inserting a raster image of the fitting into Autocad and scaling it based on Rob's measurements, it looks like both the inlet and outlet are 2" pipe (2 3/8" OD). The outlet is then reduced to 1" pipe (1 5/16" OD).

I could detail a part for your tank fabricator to weld up from stainless pipe and weld-on tank fittings.

How much outside help is allowed by the rules?

If you guys open the door to "outside help" we all know who is going to win the bathroom throw-down.

...right Colin?
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There is a similar trap in my '59 Tradewind. It is a more compact design. If you are looking around old plumbing supply houses look for one with smooth sides also.

I've posted a photo in my gallery.
Rob,

The above looks like the same fitting that Tim S. used. Where did he get his?
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We had the same P-trap dilemma...we found a nice substitute at our local plumbing supply house. It's not cast iron so it's a whole bunch lighter too. I can post a picture of it this evening...

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I just used a regular trap, and cut a small hole in the belly skin where part of the trap hangs through. Maybe I am not as particular as you are about the looks of the trailer underneath.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:24 AM   #19
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We operate here on the KISS principle. There are enough things out there in Vintage Airstream land that require complication but this isn't one of them. First, go to Lowes & buy a "bar sink drain" (they are identical to the ones Airstream used throughout the 50's & 60's) then fish around in their pvc parts boxes. You will find a combination of parts that will create a "trap" like shape that will fit perfectly inside your bellypan without cut outs etc.
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PS I'm letting Frank & Rob get a head start on their bathrooms as mine is sitting outside in the freezing cold covered with snow & I have warm trailers to work on inside.
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