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Old 06-07-2024, 01:23 PM   #1
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water pressure/water heater issues 2024 flying cloud

2024 flying cloud - These new models have a built in water pressure regulator and either it sucks or I have some other problem. Water pressure is fine at the spigot (its pretty strong). It is really weak at the faucet. Is there anyway to adjust it?
My second problem with the water is that the tankless heater wont kick in unless i turn on the bathroom sink. If i just have the kitchen sink on, it never gets hot. I think this is related to the pressure regulator being so restricted but, not sure.
Anyone have any ideas how to get the heater to come on without putting the bathroom sink on?
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Old 06-07-2024, 01:32 PM   #2
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From what I've read, for the Girard set the temp on the panel and when you want hot water just open the hot spigot the whole way and leave the cold off. The Girard needs proper flow to fire off and keep running.

This might help you.
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Old 06-07-2024, 01:56 PM   #3
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I got that much figured out. My issue is - it wont kick on unless i open the bathroom sink valve on hot. If i only open the kitchen to hot, it doesnt kick on. Seems to me that the bathroom sink is closer to the heater and that is the flow factor that gets it to go. i would think that there is some sensitivity adjustment some place. I am also thinking that i may remove the built in pressure regulator after this trip and get one that I can adjust outside the camper.
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Old 06-07-2024, 02:02 PM   #4
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You will get better answers on the regulator itself, but in the meantime you can turn on the water pump to supplement the city water with tank water rather than turn on two faucets.
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Old 06-07-2024, 09:41 PM   #5
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2024 flying cloud - These new models have a built in water pressure regulator and either it sucks or I have some other problem. Water pressure is fine at the spigot (its pretty strong). It is really weak at the faucet. Is there anyway to adjust it?
My second problem with the water is that the tankless heater wont kick in unless i turn on the bathroom sink. If i just have the kitchen sink on, it never gets hot. I think this is related to the pressure regulator being so restricted but, not sure.
Anyone have any ideas how to get the heater to come on without putting the bathroom sink on?
There could be a kink in the retractable hose for the faucet sprayer if it is only the kitchen faucet that has an issue. Check to see if the flow rate changes if you pull out the spray head and/or check under the cabinet to see if the hose is kinked or wrapped up on something. It will likely be black with a weight/stopper on it.
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Old 06-08-2024, 09:11 AM   #6
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https://www.airforums.com/forums/f443/water-pressure-water-heater-issues-2024-flying-

Why are you asking people from the Forum for their “opinions”? With a new trailer you should be having this conversation with your dealer.
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Old 06-08-2024, 07:17 PM   #7
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I have had a similar problem and the issue was the pressure controller which is integrated into the inlet port. Easy to change and available on Amazon but as another said, maybe get it done under warranty. Using the pump will probably help.
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Old 06-09-2024, 12:49 PM   #8
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Thanks everyone for the input. The short term fix i went with was to fill my fresh tank and turn on the pump when we wash dishes or shower. I can live with that for the duration of this trip. Because that fixes it and I am confident the pressure is fine at the camp grounds we have been at, i am sure the internal pressure regulator is the issue. Once my trip is over i will absolutely be getting with my dealer to look into the pressure regulator and hopefully replace it with one that allows more throughput
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Old 06-12-2024, 09:20 AM   #9
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I have a 2024 International with the same water heater and had a similar problem with the hot water. My solution was very simple. When the water enters the water heater there is a needle valve which can be adjusted to control the flow rate. My needle valve was half closed so I did not get enough flow to trigger the water heater. I opened the valve fully and the problem was solved.

This won't address your cold water flow but it solved my hot water problem. The Girard brochure shows the location of the needle valve.

My cold water flow also sucks but at least the hot water works fine.
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Old 06-12-2024, 09:53 AM   #10
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If you are using a second external water pressure regulator that can also impede the flow. I did this originally but now just rely on the built-in regulator.
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Old 06-12-2024, 11:14 AM   #11
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Lots of good discussion on this topic and possible solutions.


https://www.airforums.com/forums/f44...er-229422.html


We installed the diverted valves to make it barely tolerable.


We plan to replace the Girard with the Truma which solves the issues.


I doubt the dealer can be of much help.


Our 2022 exhibits the exact issues as yours.


PM me if you want more details or to discuss.
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Old 06-12-2024, 11:16 AM   #12
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BTW the issue is even worse boondocking. You waste a ton of water and gray tank space.
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Old 06-12-2024, 12:19 PM   #13
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We had the same problem. Our dealer replaced the 50 psi pressure regulator with a 65 psi pressure regulator under warranty, and that did the trick.
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Water pressure

Turn on your water pump. Your water pressure from your pump will draw water from your fresh water tank and the pressure will be higher. That actually doesn’t supplement the city water. When camped fill your FW tank. Also,, make sure your LP gas is turned on. The Gerard hot water heater only works using LP gas. if the gas is not turned on, you’ll get an E6 error.
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Old 06-12-2024, 03:02 PM   #15
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Water pressure

I have a 2024 International. Had the same problem. I replaced the water pressure regulator, which was 50 psi, to a Shurflo 60 psi. It took about 15 minutes to replace. It helped so that I don't have to use the pump to have hot water at all outlets.
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Old 06-12-2024, 03:17 PM   #16
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I had the same problem with my 2023 FC and the dealership tested and replaced the water pressure regulator that is part of the inlet fitting. Better than new!
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It could be a dirty aerator on the kitchen faucet. Also there are shut off valves below the sink. They could be partially open. Some facets are flow controlled. There maybe a restrictor washer behind the aerator.
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I have a 2024 International with the same water heater and had a similar problem with the hot water. My solution was very simple. When the water enters the water heater there is a needle valve which can be adjusted to control the flow rate. My needle valve was half closed so I did not get enough flow to trigger the water heater. I opened the valve fully and the problem was solved.

This won't address your cold water flow but it solved my hot water problem. The Girard brochure shows the location of the needle valve.

My cold water flow also sucks but at least the hot water works fine.
Can you provide a photo of where the needle valve is?
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Can you provide a photo of where the needle valve is?
Or a description of where the needle valve is.
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I have a 2024 International. Had the same problem. I replaced the water pressure regulator, which was 50 psi, to a Shurflo 60 psi. It took about 15 minutes to replace. It helped so that I don't have to use the pump to have hot water at all outlets.
Link to the Shurflo? Thanks !
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