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06-29-2011, 03:29 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Need a 24V fresh water pump
Any advice on the best quality pump ?
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06-29-2011, 03:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 23' Safari
Vero Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 180
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Jamestowndistributors.com is a good place and have a Jabsco max vsd pump on sale. I just ordered one for a customer. I have used several of them on boats (mostly european make boats - hince 24 volt.) and was always satisfied. It is 3.7 gpm which should be sufficient. They don't come cheap but quality usually doesn't.
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06-29-2011, 04:05 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
Any advice on the best quality pump ?
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Jabsco, 12 volt DC pumps are still great.
Andy
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06-29-2011, 04:33 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhilley
Jamestowndistributors.com is a good place and have a Jabsco max vsd pump on sale. I just ordered one for a customer. I have used several of them on boats (mostly european make boats - hince 24 volt.) and was always satisfied. It is 3.7 gpm which should be sufficient. They don't come cheap but quality usually doesn't.
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Thank you! Are they quiet?
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06-29-2011, 07:02 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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They all wake up the dinosaurs. It's part of the charm.
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06-29-2011, 07:05 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 23' Safari
Vero Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 180
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Some noise - not much. Always use accumulator tank. Bigger the better. Brand Andy suggested are usually pretty good too. Check the gpm specs before buying.
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06-29-2011, 08:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Wrong voltage
Unless your AS has been modified. You have a 12 volt DC system, therefore you need a 12 volt pump; not 24 volt.
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06-29-2011, 10:08 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TG Twinkie
Unless your AS has been modified. You have a 12 volt DC system, therefore you need a 12 volt pump; not 24 volt.
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Going with mostly 24v systems on the rebuild
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06-29-2011, 10:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Why?
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
Going with mostly 24v systems on the rebuild
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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06-29-2011, 10:35 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Battery bank is 24v , so for any device that is not a super light load it is easier and more efficient to go 24vdc.
I also have a lot of 24vdc components from other projects (PLC,LED,etc..) that I can re-purpose into the trailer.
I will have a DC-DC converter for the 12v loads but I want to try and limit them to as small as possible.
Looking at retrofitting one of these into a small freezer under fridge for 24v opp..
http://www.danfoss.com/Products/Cate...3a5b95ca0.html
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06-29-2011, 11:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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I have two 12V batteries for storage, solar panels to recharge and use the DanFoss fridge on 12V as well as the water pump and lights. Also can charge all my electronics using DC adapters without the loss of a converter.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
Battery bank is 24v , so for any device that is not a super light load it is easier and more efficient to go 24vdc.
I also have a lot of 24vdc components from other projects (PLC,LED,etc..) that I can re-purpose into the trailer.
I will have a DC-DC converter for the 12v loads but I want to try and limit them to as small as possible.
Looking at retrofitting one of these into a small freezer under fridge for 24v opp..
101Z0203 - Product specifications - Danfoss
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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06-29-2011, 11:28 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
I have two 12V batteries for storage, solar panels to recharge and use the DanFoss fridge on 12V as well as the water pump and lights. Also can charge all my electronics using DC adapters without the loss of a converter.
Bill
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Bill which fridge do you have?
I was also looking at this one @ AVG 40W/H - can be had in the $1200 range
Sure Marine Service, Inc. * Since 1972 * Marine Heating, Air Conditioning, and Galley Equipment
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06-29-2011, 11:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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24v is fine until you run into a need to cross pollinate with the rest of the world, then it might get a little "interesting". Do you run your tow vehicle on 24V too, the umbilical will be a little confused for most 12v TV's
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06-30-2011, 08:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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The one which is about 9CF.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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06-30-2011, 11:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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I'm doing the same, going 24V, and have found two Shurflo 5367131 24V Extreme Freshwater Pumps (used) off of eBay. Only took two years of looking for them to come up for auction and I think I paid $60 to $75 each of them.
I've got a Vitrifrigo with the 12/24V Danfoss compressor and I think the inverter module runs a little cooler on 24V, keep it clean and cool and they last a long time - let them get dusty or without at least some fresh air 'chimney' type air flow its an expense repair. I've also got a yachty built-in BD50 unit salvaged as a spare.
I committed to 48VDC for renewable energy systems a little too early - now am stuck piecing together 24V.
I did find a boost 12-24V 3-stage battery charger, made to install near TV battery, (The better to keep line losses down) for charging while towing or emergency top-offs when boon-docking. I'm also using its 24V quick-disconnect at the A-frame as input for portable solar panels.
Thirty-feet-plus of 4awg at 12VDC & 40 amps is 5% wire run losses (one advantage to having batteries on A-frame, they're closer!) but my batteries are going above the axles, So I can reduce the wire size to 8AWG.
After all is said and done the alternator-charger-battery wire run will be nearer to 40 feet and I'd hate to use anything as heavy as 2 or 4awg beyond the built-in trailer circuit!!
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06-30-2011, 12:41 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wabbiteer
I'm doing the same, going 24V, and have found two Shurflo 5367131 24V Extreme Freshwater Pumps (used) off of eBay. Only took two years of looking for them to come up for auction and I think I paid $60 to $75 each of them.
I've got a Vitrifrigo with the 12/24V Danfoss compressor and I think the inverter module runs a little cooler on 24V, keep it clean and cool and they last a long time - let them get dusty or without at least some fresh air 'chimney' type air flow its an expense repair. I've also got a yachty built-in BD50 unit salvaged as a spare.
I committed to 48VDC for renewable energy systems a little too early - now am stuck piecing together 24V.
I did find a boost 12-24V 3-stage battery charger, made to install near TV battery, (The better to keep line losses down) for charging while towing or emergency top-offs when boon-docking. I'm also using its 24V quick-disconnect at the A-frame as input for portable solar panels.
Thirty-feet-plus of 4awg at 12VDC & 40 amps is 5% wire run losses (one advantage to having batteries on A-frame, they're closer!) but my batteries are going above the axles, So I can reduce the wire size to 8AWG.
After all is said and done the alternator-charger-battery wire run will be nearer to 40 feet and I'd hate to use anything as heavy as 2 or 4awg beyond the built-in trailer circuit!!
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Cool! I really like the big Vitrifrigo. Those are super nice and look really good.
Sounds like quite the setup!
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07-28-2011, 07:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Land Yacht 30 SL
Oakland County
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 506
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
Any advice on the best quality pump ?
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The Flojet Sensor VSD runs on either 12v or 24v. Look it up and you'll see. Hve used one for 7-8 years now, very happy with function and noise level
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2005 ASLYG 30 SO
2009 Wrangler Toad
Michigan
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