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11-11-2015, 05:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Harper
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 8
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draining freshwater tank
After turning the white plastic petcock on the freshwater to drain it, water just trickles out extremely slow. It takes all day long to drain 50 gallons of water. Is there any way to speed this up or am I doing something wrong?
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11-11-2015, 05:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
, xxxxxx
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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Run a wire up on the petcock and see if it's partially blocked.
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11-11-2015, 05:35 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
Sandpoint
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 35
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Ours needs to turn 180 degrees, not just the 90 like many other similar valves.
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11-11-2015, 05:51 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Sloooow...
....... the drain is only 1/4" ID.....it WILL take awhile.
If our FW tank is full, even with the ball valve wide open it still takes 24hrs.
Bob
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01-10-2016, 12:42 PM
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Single Slice
2004 28' Safari S/O
Livingston
, Louisiana
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 40
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I see and use the plastic drain valve, but what is the brass petcock valve on the bottom of the shielding for? Have not tried to force it open as the plastic drain valve does drain the tank.
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01-10-2016, 12:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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I suppose you could supplement the petcock drain with your fresh water pump if emptying time is a concern.
I have always just let mine take its own sweet time - even if we have to hit the road.
Maybe it might make following drivers wonder just what is coming from the trailer ahead that is sprinkling their windshield though!
Reminds me of a sewage pump- out truck I saw on the highway once that had a big sign painted on the back that said "That ain't water on your windshield lady!" - hopefully just to amuse people in following vehicles!
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2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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01-10-2016, 12:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david686
I see and use the plastic drain valve, but what is the brass petcock valve on the bottom of the shielding for? Have not tried to force it open as the plastic drain valve does drain the tank.
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Maybe your low point drain, but if so, I think there normally should be two close together (hot & cold lines), that is what is on our 2005 Classic anyway.
Brian.
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2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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02-14-2016, 06:48 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 30' Flying Cloud
Greenback
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 294
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While we are talking about draining freshwater tanks, I could use some help. I have a 2011 FC 30. I was going to drain the freshwater tank after sanitizing the system, but I can't find the drain! I rolled around under the rig on my creeper and found no drains. Am I just not sufficiently observant? I had no trouble locating the drain valves on my 2007 Safari 25. All I see here are two plastic hose ends projecting through the belly pan. One was white and one red. No low-point drains either. Must I use the pump to empty the freshwater tank?
Richard
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02-14-2016, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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draining freshwater tank
Have you looked inside above where the white and red hoses are located? Under some kind of cover or floor plate.
We bought a Nash trailer last year. It has a 1 1/2" valve for the fresh water dump. It is quick and easy to use. Plus it does a bit of flushing because of the volume. I think it is a definite improvement over the pet cock style. If I need to replace the tank on our Argosy I will certainly increase the fresh water dump valve size.
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02-14-2016, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gneiss Guy
All I see here are two plastic hose ends projecting through the belly pan. One was white and one red. No low-point drains either. Must I use the pump to empty the freshwater tank?
Richard
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Red and white sounds like low point drains. Ours are at the right-rear corner but the valves are above, in the rear access. Our owner's manual says where the freshwater drain valve is, have you looked in the manual?
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Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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06-16-2016, 11:39 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Newton
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06-18-2016, 03:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2018 33' Classic
Cumming
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 518
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Same problem with my 2015 FC 28. With water in the tank, I maneuvered a small length of plastic tubing in the drain hole and blew in it. Some black mold/moss looking stuff came out and water flowed strong. Only problem is that I have now sanitized 3 times with 6 ozs of Clorox and I'm still having to blow in plastic tube to clear whatever this black stuff is.
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06-18-2016, 04:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaRon
Same problem with my 2015 FC 28. With water in the tank, I maneuvered a small length of plastic tubing in the drain hole and blew in it. Some black mold/moss looking stuff came out and water flowed strong. Only problem is that I have now sanitized 3 times with 6 ozs of Clorox and I'm still having to blow in plastic tube to clear whatever this black stuff is.
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If you've got black stuff - first ask yourself what kind of water are you using to FILL your tank? Sadly if you're running it through a bunch of filters you may be filtering out the small amount of city supplied chlorine which will prevent that kind of sediment - or black algae from forming.
You might try filling a glass gallon bottle with your regular fill water, sealing the lid and watching what happens to it over a week to 10 days - that'll tell you if the water is the problem.
I'd do the equivalent of a "shock treatment" like it's a swimming pool on the tank too. You don't want UNDILUTED bleach in your tank - but one time using a quart and filling the tank about 3/4 full then really agitating it for a 50 mile drive or so - then draining it completely would be good.
BTW - always OPEN the FILL when you're draining otherwise you're creating a vacuum in the tank, which could crack the fill tube or even damage the tank. If you're draining the tank and leaving it empty for a while you might even consider carefully angling the trailer so that there isn't any chance that any water remains IN it - or even blowing it out from above with a very modest amount of air pressure. Using your winterizing kit plug and a 12 volt tire pump would be my choice.
Paula
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06-22-2016, 08:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1998 31' Excella 1000
South Berwick
, Maine
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I purchased the machined aluminum flange several years ago on ebay. I have purchased another Airstream and would like to replace the plastic valve with the aluminum flange, but it seems they are no longer available on ebay. Do you know of any sources?
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06-23-2016, 05:42 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peegreen
I purchased the machined aluminum flange several years ago on ebay. I have purchased another Airstream and would like to replace the plastic valve with the aluminum flange, but it seems they are no longer available on ebay. Do you know of any sources?
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This vender?
He is not a large volume shop, availability comes & goes, ck back periodically, it should re-appear.
Bob
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06-23-2016, 05:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Ditto to Paula's good advice. Airstreams are meant to be used which includes very regular use of the fresh water in the tank. We have become too enamored of full hookups, so folks are disregarding the standard operating procedures of keeping their tanks (fresh and waste) in tip-top operating shape.
Use it or lose it comes to mind.
The bleach treatments should also be pumped through all the plumbing lines as needed.
I would be careful here until the water is clearly OK again. Understanding the source cause of the black gunk, in a trailer which is only a couple of years old, must happen ASAP.
Good luck, and please let us know what you do.
Thanks,
Peter
PS Bob thanks for the reminder about the replacement fitting.
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