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Old 05-04-2015, 02:54 PM   #1
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zipdee fabric replacement

I am trying to repair or replace my awning.. 75 international The fabric is good, but all the seams are coming iunstitched.... What I am hoping is that it is possible to remove and replace the fabric with the awning still attached. Is this doable? I see the top is a cord in the rail, the fabric is riveted to the tube. Will the springs retract and roll up if the fabric is un riveted? thanks.. help please. Richard in Texas
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:16 PM   #2
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Not sure, call zip dee in Chicago , they are very helpful.


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Old 05-04-2015, 03:20 PM   #3
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Actually, I think you will have to remove awning because of the spring unwinding.,, be very careful, it can hurt you! Btw, that awning Assy is very heavy.


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Also Zip-Dee fabric is wrapped around tube not with cord pulled thru groove in tube like carefree and others do, so it's def. removal of awning. Site is awnings by zipdee.com full instructions how to remove change fab. etc. very detailed info [pdf]
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thanks guys.. I know it is heavy, I really dont want to have to take it apart or off. I wll contact Zipdee. but if anyone has a better idea or more experience, let me know.
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Actually, I think you will have to remove awning because of the spring unwinding.,, be very careful, it can hurt you!
You mean like this?
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f483...ies-51182.html
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Smile changing awning fab.

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YES my neighbor helping to change fab. on care free awning when vise grips slipped, no more thumb nail.
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Well, it seems the general idea is to just not do it. I think I will try liquid stitch, and the clear repair tape until it is time to replace all of it. It just is a shame that the fabric is in great shape and the stitching just let go. Seems like zipdee should use a better thread.Hope everyone has healed up by now..
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can you reinforce the seams...

...with something like the Dritz Speedy Stitcher?


Speedy Stitcher Sewing Awl Kit- - Walmart.com
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I think I would give what Renee is suggesting a try. Get some good heavy polyester thread (see sailrite.com for outdoor rated thread). Open the awning and try stitching it back together by hand. You could simulate a lock stitch by using the speedy stitcher from the bottom and threading a second thread through the loops it makes from the top of the awning. Open the awning about a foot, sew, open another foot, sew...


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Having removed and replaced one of these by myself, I can attest that they are 1) heavy 2) awkward a bad combination. Unwinding the spring is not a huge deal , you need to be aware of it and don't let it go. Winding it reminded me of spinning a prop on an old biplane. The cloth is riveted onto the poles. If you can repair it intact I think you'd be better off.


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Might as well replace it if you remove it. I wonder if Zipdee is using better thread now days. Mine is doing the same thing.

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this is why I love this forum. I will try the stitcher.. I can sew , but we shall see. I did try a regular needle and wax thread today, thats not going to happen.. too hard to puncture the material.
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I ordered the speedy stitch kit, with wax thread and extra needles. this should be interesting. I made a jig to go under the seam, 2x2 fits under the slats, and stretched out to the tube. It is very awkward to try to work on the seams while attached, but gotta do it. When the wind blows the awning is like ribbons...
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I have to say I have learned a lot about the awnings in this project. I know that the thread that zipdee uses is tiny thread, that rots way before the fabric does.I know that even though I am not a pro at sewing, but a lock stitch would last so much longer than a chain stitch. If you pull on one tiny part of a zipdee seam, the thread just unravels and does not stop until you cut or burn the end. That being said, I recommend Aleenes super fabric glue ( liquid stitch). This stuff is great. I made a jig.. a 2x2 to go under each seam, and removed the thread and applied this stuff. to both pieces of fabric on the overlap. Press is flat and tape the seam, Sets up in about an hour. The results are fantastic. I would trust the repairs in any kind of weather. It takes a while, I can only do one seam at a time, about 4 ft. then move the board to the next, do it and so on. After going the length, I started over with the awning rolled up to the point of the glue line. I am still going to put some safety stitches in with the awl kit that you recommended. It is like repairing a sail, which I have done a long time ago. will post pictures tomorrow.I really am happy with this,Richard
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I know this is an old post but have a similar problem and am wondering how this repair with glue worked out over time?
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I have to say I have learned a lot about the awnings in this project. I know that the thread that zipdee uses is tiny thread, that rots way before the fabric does.I know that even though I am not a pro at sewing, but a lock stitch would last so much longer than a chain stitch. If you pull on one tiny part of a zipdee seam, the thread just unravels and does not stop until you cut or burn the end. That being said, I recommend Aleenes super fabric glue ( liquid stitch). This stuff is great. I made a jig.. a 2x2 to go under each seam, and removed the thread and applied this stuff. to both pieces of fabric on the overlap. Press is flat and tape the seam, Sets up in about an hour. The results are fantastic. I would trust the repairs in any kind of weather. It takes a while, I can only do one seam at a time, about 4 ft. then move the board to the next, do it and so on. After going the length, I started over with the awning rolled up to the point of the glue line. I am still going to put some safety stitches in with the awl kit that you recommended. It is like repairing a sail, which I have done a long time ago. will post pictures tomorrow.I really am happy with this,Richard
I have had the same problem on boats for many, many years. I finally solved it by specifying that all outside covers be sewn with Gortex thread. It adds to the price, but in the the long run it will outlast the fabric.
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